Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Ankamius]

I'm a vanilla neighbor if it helps

[Yachting n Socializing]

Morality - informed
Tarkus - neighbour
Boats - vt
Vork -
Ank - neighbour
SS -
Snow -

well broke the popcorn but idrc, waiting on Vork

[Ankamius]

We just need shit moving

I'm not waiting 3 days for Vorkuta to finally get back to the thread only to have to wait another 3 days for YellowSnow too

[Yachting n Socializing]

Meh, optimal play is to wait. Which is annoying that they aren't getting prodded but this is why I didn't start mass claim yesterday.

[Ankamius]

ok daddy

[Yachting n Socializing]

Tbh, I don't really care about popcorning and I've never seen it actually help, because reading when and how people choose to claim is also a thing. So

SS / Vorkuta / Snow

should all claim when they see this. Snow should theoretically be first followed by Vorkuta and then SS, but the days are "short" (10 days) so might as well get it over with.

[Morality]

Consider me voting Boats right now.

@Vorkura - you need to unvote. If Snow gets on, they can probably pull off a quick hammer and win.

[Morality]

If Ank is scum* instead of Tarkus.

[Vorkuta]

UNVOTE:

Told you I'd be able to conf!town myself

[Yachting n Socializing]

Morality - informed
Tarkus - neighbour
Boats - vt
Vork - vig
Ank - neighbour
SS -
Snow -

[Yachting n Socializing]

Snow hasnt posted since

March 8

, the fuck

[Something_Smart]

I don't see why I need to claim today, I'll say now that I don't have any useful info.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I don't see why I need to claim today, I'll say now that I don't have any useful info.

Come now, you've played long enough to know the purpose of a mass claim. I will let you claim after Snow if you think that's important as you're a stronger town read.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, I also know the value of keeping your cards close to your chest.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I town read you enough and know you're smart enough that I will trust your judgment this time. If we get to post game and I disagree with your decision, I won't be okay with it in future games jsyk.

Just waiting on Snow then.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 4.1

YellowSnow(0)

Something_Smart

Shoshin

(0)

Morality

u r a person 2

(0)

Vorkuta(0)

Boats n Hoes(0)

Ankamius

JohnnyEnglish

Vedith

Sniperlyfe77

(0)

Tarkus(0)

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(7)Morality;Boats n Hoes;Ankamius;Tarkus;Something_Smart;Vorkuta;YellowSnow;

With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2019-03-19 17:29:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

[Ankamius]

cool

glad to know that we are potentially in lylo where solving the setup could win town the game and yet "I don't need to reveal yet"

[Yachting n Socializing]

@Mod

yellow is like long overdue for a prod

[Not Known 15]

YellowSnow has been prodded.

[Morality]

Guys, I’ve solved the game.

ScumSnow site flaked.

[Morality]

The team is literally just Boats, Snow, Tarkus.

[Morality]

Pretty much caught up.

Preferred vote today is DDL or Tarkus. Vedith I don't consider a bad vote, but I don't really know how to read him.

DDL is flipped town, Vedith was null and is Ank.

Tarkus is leftover here. This was likely a traitor crumb. I’ll go find more

[Morality]

Athena what do I do to make this a game that you want to invest your time and energy into?

Just let me do my thing.

VOTE: roomy

I played scum with yellow in a recent game AMA

Um... what's your read on him? You don't seem to actually say it despite making a comment like 286.

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Interested to hear about the roomy scumread, RC. His entrance has a few posts that ping town but I'm hesitant to take that to townread him.

Vote: Tarkus

I mean I really don't like to be this reliant on meta-reads. So I'm probably going to take everything that people say in that area with a grain of salt.

Any scum player is going to attempt to replicate their town meta as scum. And the fact that Creature's scum meta has been labeled as very obviously different from his town meta means that he can easily fake being town if he wants to. (That said, see below)

Similarly, I'm hesitant about any entirely meta based reads of players who are considered to be very good. Someone in that category of player would know what kind of things they are likely to be town read for. I'd be more curious to know if anyone looks like they're playing to their town meta, but in a way that looks forced.

No... that's not really how meta reads work. The reason that effective meta reads exist in the first place comes from an obvious difference between people's town and scum games. Yes, it is theoretically possible for someone to mimic their towngame as scum, but those type of people... don't tend to get meta-read.

That being said, I actually do agree with you in that Creature is most likely town. I'm willing to believe that he just had a slow start.

Unvote

I've heard a lot about how his old meta is no longer reliable in reading him, but apart from perhaps a single game (Transformers Mafia) I can't think of a game that actually demonstrates this. Interested if someone actually has one.


I probably re-vote Tarkus here, going to check VC.

These are the first times that Tarkus is brought up by COA.

Creature is cases and voted in between.

There is no further push until the DDL or Tarkus line is brought up way later.

COA also lurked the entirety of her time alive, she only really popped in two or three times.

[Morality]

She also positioned herself on the other side of Boats/Yellow.

They were both pushing me as scum, while COA nulled me. That was so they all weren’t making the same push while also not giving RC total control.

[Vorkuta]

Why were both RC and dunn so sure that snow was town rhough?