Micro 857: Burden of Proficiency Mafia

singletonking · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:37 pm

In post 37, Shoshin wrote:VOTE: RC

Tbh
I don't like this retaliation vote

u r a person 2 · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:21 am

In post 330, Michael Scott wrote:2. URAP, do you believe you're an easy read? Can you link to some successful scumgames of yours?

never tried to read myself, so i dunno. I've never been mislynched, though.

Nope, I have one scum game, it's on my wiki, and it was a loss.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:28 am

In post 367, Michael Scott wrote:URAP: No real read here, but I'm a bit paranoid about his settling on the three being TvTvT pretty quick and being so ready to lynch from me and Saudade, while also saying he's adding nothing to the game and wants to wait for the other slots. I also figure town!URAP wouldn't be so quick to clear RC.

Hey now, keep it classy

If my reads were settled and I was "so ready to lynch" I would have placed a vote.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:30 am

Spoiler:

over do it much?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:32 am

In post 400, Saudade wrote:Explain the pairing logic which concluded that I'm scum
if its sane you might be town
if it isnt...

HANS

GET THE FLAMEWEFFER

also doesn't feel natural or like a real thought process

u r a person 2 · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:34 am

In post 438, Saudade wrote:I think my response within reasonable bounds of legitimate responses

=/

u r a person 2 · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:36 am

still like {MS + the suadade}

will be around later

Michael Scott · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:14 am

Is that still a PoE or do you find any of my content scummy? If so what?

Michael Scott · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:20 am

In post 452, u r a person 2 wrote:If my reads were settled and I was "so ready to lynch" I would have placed a vote.

Not necessarily

singletonking · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:29 am

Hello

singletonking · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:29 am

Can you prove that you're town to me

Enter · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:20 am

Something still pings me about opening interaction between shoshin and RC. It doesn't sit well.

Enter · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:22 am

In post 6, RadiantCowbells wrote:don't rvs vote. don't vote at all.

In post 29, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 25, Shoshin wrote:Hmm, not sure if RC's paranoia is fake or real. He knows at this point that he's paranoid of me every game but this seems a bit too soon for it, plus I feel like he'd probably wouldn't be coming after me like this so early.

kk

VOTE: Shoshin

I've seen enough.

Enter · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:22 am

I think I expect more control from RC here

Enter · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:26 am

I agree that urap is probably town and I'll admit my thought process is a bit biased towards Paragon Game. My argument is that we flip shoshin and then if she flips scum, then RC is also scum. RC doesn't set up a game state in which both lurkers look very bad in the scenario that he is town.

If Shoshin flips town, then I think scum is both lurkers yesterday.

Enter · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:27 am

Yeah. I wanna say it's RC and Shoshin over anyone else. Shoshins early post are strangely antagonistic, IMO, and RC drops his scum read on her far too easily.

Enter · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:29 am

Also RC is weirdly pushing Saudade right now without any real actual push - he's just trying to get on Saudades nerves, it looks like, without actually pushing him as scum.

Enter · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:31 am

In post 11, Shoshin wrote:Hey U2, why are you trusting obvscum RC?

This especially - and the fact that she said it was a joke later - is pinging me. I doubt it's actually a joke in any sense of the word, it foreshadows the upcoming fight quite well, almost as if it is planned, and Shoshin can call out RC for being scummy because she knows he is scum.

Enter · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:32 am

Also RC seems to be very much trying to shirk responsibility for his reads, which isn't something I expect him to do - usually I expect him to attempt to solo carry the game

Enter · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:36 am

In post 47, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 45, Shoshin wrote:If you think I'd follow you as town, you're delusional.
as town, as in you're not? thanks.

This feels forced

In post 49, RadiantCowbells wrote:
YOU CANNOT BUDDY ME AS SCUM IN A 5P SETUP WHERE I'M JUST GOING TO LEAD ON YOUR BUDDY.

This is over the top

In post 51, Shoshin wrote:If you're actually town, I'm replacing out of this RC.

This is over the top and an attempt at buddying

In post 58, Shoshin wrote:The fact RC's pushing my lynch means he's scum, period. He straight-up told me he felt uncomfortable pushing my lynch ever because he'd feel too bad about mislynching me, and that he'd replace out before pushing my lynch. This is scum RC.

This isn't even close to a real argument

In post 59, RadiantCowbells wrote:i dearly hope town wins and paragons lose

Feels weird the way he had to go out of his way to say "town wins" when the only purpose of this post is to say that he doesn't want the paragons to win

Enter · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:39 am

None of Shoshins early posts read as town really at all. Or natural, even. Like every single one of them reads like this fight was planned, she's intentionally going over the top, and she has no intention of actually lynching RC. Both these players are supposedly (I don't know shoshin, so I'm not sure on her) strong enough to know you have to have an actual argument and neither of them work to build this.

Enter · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:40 am

In post 59, RadiantCowbells wrote:i dearly hope town wins and paragons lose

More natural responses include:
"i really hope you lose, EE"

Enter · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:41 am

In post 471, Enter wrote:
In post 59, RadiantCowbells wrote:i dearly hope town wins and paragons lose
More natural responses include:
"i really hope you lose, EE"

But he knows my optimal response is "I'm a paragon" and then I work through why it's beneficial for town to have the game already sorted.

Enter · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:41 am

So he tries to beat me at my argument by posting what he did.

Enter · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:44 am

In post 68, Shoshin wrote:UNVOTE:

Naked

In post 69, RadiantCowbells wrote:UNVOTE:

i'll unvote.

but i think that you're scum.

RC knows he keeps a read after a 1v1 so he's trying to fake holding it here. Why say it, though? Why call her scum? Why unvote at all? Remember that RC voted Shoshin before shoshin voted RC. It's not like RCs vote is a response to Shoshin at all. He really doesn't have a reason to invite here