Mini 2063 - Rapier Upick Shuffle [Game Over]

[RadiantCowbells]

Not sure what you're asking me

Also super confused why everyone but parmigiano is getting wagoned

VOTE: parmigiano

Starting to get wary of that fact and want to take the sure scum flip

[Varsoon]

Why's the CHEESE a scum flip, Radiant?

[mbaki]

I can't make the first move if I can't vote.

@Fractured: Respond to what, though?

Thoughts on mbaki. You haven't posted any, as far as I'm aware.

I like saying mmmmmbaki.
Feels funny to say
MMMMMbaki

Reminds me of Umbasa.

Anyway those dudes seem town enough.

I made this word up! and I love it too

[RadiantCowbells]

the posts that i already addressed as super good reasons to scumread them + the fact that, as i pointed out, everyone but them keeps getting wagoned

[Alonzo]

VOTE: parmigiana

[Varsoon]

I haven't been wagoned, though, Radiant.
Does that make me a scum dog millionaire?

[GuiltyLion]

However, while there are plenty of votes being thrown around and considerably few reads in comparison, your vote has remained on us since the beginning of the game. In fact, even while you've entertained suspicion and scumreads on other people, you haven't moved from us or added anything around stating a scumread on us. This particularly fascinates Enter who thought he had mind-melded with you in marathon mafia. He certainly expects more from this slot.

I move my vote when I feel like it'll be more productive elsewhere, and that hadn't happened yet.

The 'we aren't mindmelding' shtick is the same exact line Enter pulled as scum when pretending to scumread me in the other marathon game we played together, so I don't think that's the angle you should be taking here if you want me on your side. I am also disappointed we haven't mindmelded, but part of that is because all you'd done previously was thrown around soft townreads on easy-to-townread players and hadn't given a single tangible scumread to work with.

I like some of your other thoughts in this post though. I'm scumreading mbaki for much the same reasons and the Varsoon conflict you're describing feels believable. And I'm not really seeing a scum agenda towards townreading Parm here

UNVOTE:

[GuiltyLion]

RC you're frankly just bad at reading me

I can't remember a single game we've played recently where you've correctly townread me

if you're town here that'll be three in a row of you paranoia scumreading me for no reason

my scum game is not that good

and if my associatives with your scumreads are sloppy that makes me even more likely town

@GuiltyLion, What is the context of this post? This seems very overreaction to RCs read.

the context is I had a number of townreads (implosion, mastina) either scumreading me or angling to scumread me, and the past couple of games I've played with RC he's scumread me when I've been town - last time being Half Flag Nightless where he literally attempted his gladiator thing on me for two straight days - and I did not want to have to deal with that again in this game. I definitely overreacted a bit but I also strongly did not feel like entertaining the direction the thread was heading.

[mbaki]

529 - You ignored Taly making an assessment and questioning you in 259, and you've given 0 explanation or thought around your response on Enter's latest post.

i did indeed ignore you

[GuiltyLion]

I agree. I am in a similar boat, this restrained posting is weird for me to get used to. How do you feel about GuiltyLion/mbaki?

mbaki has a certain flow to his posts that make it seem natural, so nothing has given me pauses. I am not sure about GuiltyLion yet.

from the scumgame I saw from Eddie when I played with him a year or two ago, he's extremely good at sounding natural tonally. I only started catching onto him halfway through D2 when I noticed he wasn't actually ever taking stances or participating substantially in important questions on game events and players. which is the same kinda vibe I've gotten from him so far this game

[mbaki]

that GL Fractured interaction looks super SvS but i'm not gonna push that too hard

[GuiltyLion]

ISO skim leaves me with a strong townread on Fractured.

1. RVS mindmeld on townreads - I'd imagine scum would pick apart and attack one of the RVS posters, I was expecting to be called awkward for it.
2. 528 and 631 - Clear, transparent stances on things early in the game without any real need to. +town indicative.

this is a tremendously bad post, for the record

1 - everybody knows faking townreads as scum is easy. It also feels like unnatural/forced reasoning - "they're not playing how in this specific manner I would expect scum to play, therefore they're town"
2 - there was definite need to, because several people were scumreading them and voting them. like you're giving them town credit for doing something that either alignment would want to do to look town.

I have to think a townie - especially players of Auro/volxen caliber - would see that a scum!Fractured could fake this level of content so far and would have more paranoia than a "strong townread" after an ISO skim. this feels like a fabricated townread because they already decided previously that they didn't want to scumread Fractured slot

VOTE: Michael Scott

[GuiltyLion]

i'm not gonna push that too hard

why not

[mbaki]

I agree. I am in a similar boat, this restrained posting is weird for me to get used to. How do you feel about GuiltyLion/mbaki?

mbaki has a certain flow to his posts that make it seem natural, so nothing has given me pauses. I am not sure about GuiltyLion yet.

from the scumgame I saw from Eddie when I played with him a year or two ago, he's extremely good at sounding natural tonally. I only started catching onto him halfway through D2 when I noticed he wasn't actually ever taking stances or participating substantially in important questions on game events and players. which is the same kinda vibe I've gotten from him so far this game

You didn't really catch onto me if you mean the vanilluxe game, it was a curb stomp

[mbaki]

i'm not gonna push that too hard

why not

you are too good to need a serious answer to this, so you're not getting one

[Varsoon]

I thought you were someone else that used to use a Hobbes avatar.

[GuiltyLion]

Players who I believe have an extremely high probability of being town:

mbaki
Reality Check
GuiltyLion
Brigette
implosion
Michael Scott

I think Varsoon is scum.

why mbaki/Michael Scott

you don't need to give me an essay but a one liner or two on how you can rule out those two from being scum

[mbaki]

GL i want to know your confidence in your scumread on me

[GuiltyLion]

GL i want to know your confidence in your scumread on me

in an objective sense it's fairly weak

but relative to most of the other players it's significant, at this point i don't really see a world where you work your way into my townbloc at the expense of somebody else without flips

do you agree with the assessment that you've been around this whole game so far but haven't really done anything to shape it? like I don't have a sense at all of who you actually townread or scumread

[Reality Check]

hi guys

is my presence requested in the present moment

[RadiantCowbells]

yes

[Reality Check]

lovely!

what am I needed for my dear

[Brigitte]

Snacks.

[mbaki]

GL i want to know your confidence in your scumread on me

in an objective sense it's fairly weak

but relative to most of the other players it's significant, at this point i don't really see a world where you work your way into my townbloc at the expense of somebody else without flips

do you agree with the assessment that you've been around this whole game so far but haven't really done anything to shape it? like I don't have a sense at all of who you actually townread or scumread

I have shaped it in the sense I've actively influenced thread direction. I don't actually have strong reads, or I would be casing them. I do think its actually indicative of my town game that I don't, I fake reads as scum more often than I'd just say "I don't really have any reads". Granted, I fake reads as town too, such as faking faking townreading RC for my bored bad gambit. I've voted my strongest scum reads but they still aren't all that strong.

Maybe I'm a super OP role trying to not get night killed :O /crumb??? Or maybe I'm a super bad role trying to get night killed by saying that :O /crumb???

But I don't see you pushing my lynch despite claiming a scum read on me which isn't awful. I still want Alonzo today.

[Reality Check]

I have twinkies

that's it :V