Non-Reviewed Game [game over]

[Wisdom]

nah. i can see how sabrina gives off that impression and its totally reasonable for ausuka to suspect it

[Wisdom]

that said, ausuka; its more than likely sabrina genuinely taking offense and being unable to step away rather than a scum agenda

[MariaR]

Sabrinas tone comes off extremely genuine to me and it's baffling anyone can suspect that slot. Why are we voting Enigma again? I just joined to make wagons look good, but it seems people are srsly suspecting this slot so I might as well find out why.

[Wisdom]

because he hasnt done anything town since i voted him

[Fuscosco]

Sabrinas tone comes off extremely genuine to me and it's baffling anyone can suspect that slot. Why are we voting Enigma again? I just joined to make wagons look good, but it seems people are srsly suspecting this slot so I might as well find out why.

hmmm, they haven't done content yet. i wont say id never TR a player based solely on tude and tone, but I will say its not stupid town. do you have experience with their main to verify this?

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.21

6 players voting for Enigma (Wisdom, Elsa Jay, Dunnstral, MariaR, Vedith, StarwingBeauvoi)
4 players voting for Elsa Jay (Clemency, ofrhz, light_ganski, DoubtingThomas)
2 players voting for DoubtingThomas (Sabrina LeCutie, Fuscosco)
2 player voting for Sabrina LeCutie (wilky, Ausuka)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald (davesaz)
1 player voting for davesaz (Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for StarwingBeauvoi (Enigma)

0 players not voting

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to lynch.

day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-03-19 19:00:00).

mod notes: wilky is being replaced.

[xyzzy]

btw since this replacement will be pretty close to deadline there will most likely be a deadline extension; how long it is will depend on how much time remains when the replacement happens.

[StarwingBeauvoi]

Enigma, why do you think Wisdom is pushing your wagon?

[xyzzy]

chennisden replaces Wilky.

bumping the deadline up by 24 hours.

[Vedith]

Hi Chen! \o/

[Enigma]

Enigma, why do you think Wisdom is pushing your wagon?

not sure

he's either lazy town or scum going for an easy mislynch. the value of d1 is to make associatives from the various wagons and discussions happening - this is not existent in this game so my flip barely provides any info and this is something good for scum

i disagree with his read of who might be scum on my wagon

maria and vedith

imo scum would make more of an effort to make a valid reason to jump on the wagon, whereas maria and vedith are quite the opposite

[Wisdom]

have you played with maria or vedith before

[Vedith]

I have.

[Elsa Jay]

I was recently scum with Ved, actually. He's pretty chill with what he does, so I think I have a general feeling on him now? Slight townie.

[chennisden]

Vedith I know you tryhard as scum but I'm not sure if you tryhard as town.

I also want to ISO sabrina so I know why my slot voted them.

[Vedith]

I always try my best \o/

[chennisden]

sooo a personal conflict is why my slot is voting another slot

great

i fucking hate "out of game" influences like this

[chennisden]

VOTE: sabrina

i think that this needs more pressure: i feel her policy push on dt is clearly not working and as town she would either take a different angle to pushing DT or push somebody else. Right now she feels like scum who's satisfied with her current position of mostly flying under the radar and being ignored.

This feels like someone trying to make an easy push/discredit on a really stupidly obv town slot.

How is this

stupidly obvious?

[MariaR]

chennisden replaces Wilky.

bumping the deadline up by 24 hours.

Oh god.

have you played with maria or vedith before

You say this like it implies scum me would jump on a wagon for no reason. (Hint that's really wrong.)

[StarwingBeauvoi]

Enigma, why do you think Wisdom is pushing your wagon?

not sure

he's either lazy town or scum going for an easy mislynch. the value of d1 is to make associatives from the various wagons and discussions happening - this is not existent in this game so my flip barely provides any info and this is something good for scum

i disagree with his read of who might be scum on my wagon

maria and vedith

imo scum would make more of an effort to make a valid reason to jump on the wagon, whereas maria and vedith are quite the opposite

Wisdom is not stupid, but he's not always as wise as he likes to think. Giving reasons for reads is beneath him, because if we unwise people can't find our own reasons, we don't deserve his. I have not observed Wisdom as scum.

Few counter wagons, little effort, I think we've all been affected by a pathi. That's a moth like creature that makes people drowsy.

Who else could I push to make interesting things happen? I really should.

If scum take the effort to give valid reasons, then the way to not look like scum is to not try, thus not trying ought to be a sign someone is scum. But if you don't try people accuse you of not caring, and no one listens to you, thus you should try anyway.

[Wisdom]

its not about "town tries" or "scum tries"
its about the specifics person
If they try as town, theyll try as scum so they look town
If they dont try as town, they wont try as scum so they look town
Its not black and white

[Wisdom]

chennisden replaces Wilky.

bumping the deadline up by 24 hours.

Oh god.

have you played with maria or vedith before

You say this like it implies scum me would jump on a wagon for no reason. (Hint that's really wrong.)

No I said this because Enigma basically said "lack of effort = town" which like i said in the previous post is bs
I want to see if he considers meta at all or if hes just being this shallow

[Wisdom]

imo scum would make more of an effort to make a valid reason to jump on the wagon, whereas maria and vedith are quite the opposite

Also despite this statement he is not trying to scumhunt on his wagon at all
He says he disagrees with maria and vedith but hes not telling us who *is* scum on his wagon

[Wisdom]

chennisden you seem like you've read
why no opinion on the top wagon?

[davesaz]

I was mildly town on Wilky, not so sure with Chennisden.
Starwing looks more town.
Wisdom is explaining more than in the past. I'm interested enough in the improvement to not want to discourage it. And it seems to be town motivated even if I were concerned about the change.