Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Ankamius]

What exactly is the case Flubber being scum?

*the case on

It's a gamestate read, his alignment holds a pretty big key to solving it I think. His actions indicate a scum agenda that I suspect is in play this game and him flipping scum would go a long way towards proving that.

Plus if he ends up flipping town instead, then that's a big sign I need to rethink again.

It's a high information high scum equity lynch

[Ankamius]

like

idk how we can reconcile our playstyle differences because I hold the opinion that the information is 5x more valuable than the scumflip

so I'm not sure explaining more is worth bothering with

[Elbirn]

His

actions

indicate a scum agenda

This is the part I need explained/care about

Pedit: Then we're at an impasse and I simply cant be a part of...this thing that's happening.

[Ankamius]

one thing I will say though is that I'm not actually trying to find the entire team, right now

I'm trying to find the method that will allow me to deduce the entire team (or at least narrow it down enough that I can focus entirely on getting town on the same page) in the most efficient way

and currently that way is by flipping flubbernugget

[Ankamius]

well, I mean... sorry :V

this is the best approach I can take with this game, I can't do the casing judge-by-actions thing because I literally cannot think that way and the years I spent trying was when I was horrible at this, so

the problem with it is that I've had to take extra liberties with it so I had to gamble all my credibility on having a good lead on the first try, so if it fails then I'm effectively sunk and it's not worth trying to build a second one, this playerlist won't trust me with that a second time and I don't have the tools available to convince you all the way you would need to be convinced otherwise

[Xtoxm]

aw i wanted the tictac slot

hello!
i'm pretty sure your slot is town!

no not really
i'd mostly been protesting the xtoxm thing because of the residual townread on urap but xtoxm i think has largely eroded it over the past few irl days

ive ignored this bullshit turnaround so far but its objectively very scummy
this is either really bad town or scum

[Elbirn]

*BZZZZTTT*


Oooo I'm sorry xtoxm, but that buzzer means skitter is town. Better luck next time!

[Xtoxm]

probably but its still bullshit and if i piss her off she'll move her vote back to me

[Elbirn]

...which would be desirable because of why?

[Xtoxm]

i dont enjoy being scumread by everyone and id rather get my lynch out the way today than go through more day phases of this trash

[Xtoxm]

and a turn around like that is still objectively scummy so im going to call it out regardless

[Xtoxm]

ank has already positioned to go after me if flub flips town and people are saying they wont reconsider anything on a townflip
so what is the fucking point

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: ank

[Chara]

and a turn around like that is still objectively scummy so im going to call it out regardless

a turnaround that took over 1000 posts to happen with a lot of in-between stages is scummy?
i think you'll find that under the definition of cherry-picking.

[Xtoxm]

dont talk to me, scum

[Nimueh]

I’m townlocking Creature, Ank and Chara. Thanks Elbirn. <3

Not me?

Hi, sorry. Yeah, you’re pretty obvtown.

I’m actually thinking now that everyone save Xtoxm, Elbirn and Flubber are town. Flubber at least in part due to associatives.

Your solve's compatible with mine, if you'd add NMSA in.

i really don't think Flubber/Elbirn/Xtoxm is ever a team here.

What about Flubber/Elbirn/NMSA?

I would prefer Elbirn over any other wagon. I can’t see any world where that over the top 180 degree/hostile, agressive type “catch up”, ever comes from town.

Sorry for messing up the formatting.

[Nimueh]

I like both Flubber and Xtoxn wagons and I'd predict about one total scum between both of them.

Only one? You don’t think they’re linked?

[Nimueh]

Creature I will trust the townreads of

-_-

I have a very bad track record of reading you, sorry :V

Then why do you trust his townreads?

I think she meant, trust the townreads OF Creature - the the trs on him are correct.

[Nimueh]

Ok Elbirn might not be scum

Just not understanding how I reached the solve

Because he’s not scumlocking you like Xtoxm?

[Nimueh]

I’m townlocking Creature, Ank and Chara. Thanks Elbirn. <3

I think theres a minimum of two town there so good job Nim you're doing great

i really don't think Flubber/Elbirn/Xtoxm is ever a team here.

I think his recent posts are actually the scummiest of the three.

The sudden over the top aggression, just basically coming out of nowhere. Unless Elbirn is an alt, I’m sure I’ve never played with him before.

I'm not an alt, and I have like confidence level 1000 that we've played a game before where you were on your main. I'm not about to out it but I could PM you post game if you care.

Anyway, a flub/xtoxm/me team is wrong + your scumread on me because I called you abusive is..really not the best but uhm I would like to take a moment to apologize to you, actually, because I think I was out of line. So uh. I'm sorry.

With that being said, yeah, I do believe that you're very reactionary and you scumread dissent and people you perceive as "against" you, and that wont help you find scum. I'm fine writing you off as town for the time being but should we wind up in a scenario where I think you might be mafia can we just...be cool? We can just have back and forth discussions and not flame war arguments. I'm here 2 b chill

I don't really say this enough in games

Whenever I feel like I have a confident solve in a game and enough scum properly pegged to be able to push town into a win, I'm always much more afraid of getting NKed and town being thrown off track without me there than of getting my scumreads lynched

I don't want to get these lynches because I forced people to sheep me with no other choice

I want town to be set up to be able to get them without me there at all

And having someone who can hold a lot of influence over the rest of the town fall prey to a paranoic mindset as a solve is being put into effect is one of the single worst scenarios I can think of

I want to avoid that scenario much more than I want either of these lynches

Being paranoid of the NK in a so far nightless game is...something?

I'll go more into why people should be okay with a Flubber lynch later today

Absolute worst case for anybody, it's an information gold mine

When you do, can you reiterate why you think Flub is scum? I dont lynch people for information, I lynch people because I think they're scum. I get I'm the shitty lurker who hasn't been doing his homework and is begging to be spoonfed but if you want my vote I need you to know that I cant work with "lynch X, itll be informative"

Okay, so maybe I’m reading you incorrectly, then?

So, who do you think I’m wrong about? Never Creature and I think we’re both tr Ank. So, I’m guessing Chara, right?

Anyway, I really appreciate your apology. So thank you. <3

[Nimueh]

aw i wanted the tictac slot

hello!
i'm pretty sure your slot is town!

no not really
i'd mostly been protesting the xtoxm thing because of the residual townread on urap but xtoxm i think has largely eroded it over the past few irl days

ive ignored this bullshit turnaround so far but its objectively very scummy
this is either really bad town or scum

Why do you not believe Skitter’s “turnaround”?

[Nimueh]

probably but its still bullshit and if i piss her off she'll move her vote back to me

and a turn around like that is still objectively scummy so im going to call it out regardless

You really think Skitter would vote for someone solely on the basis of being “pissed off”?

I still don’t understand why it’s “objectively scummy”?

[Nimueh]

I think I’m fine with my vote rn.

[Elbirn]

Have not slept
5am my time
Have to go back to work soon
Even though I worked last night
My job isnt even important enough to warrant this I'm just a bitch
My point being that my mental health just took a sudden nosedive (fucking sleep is important okay), expect exactly 0 content from me for today, or tomorrow, or whatever this time is

[tris]

I think Flubber is town. I think I disagree with a lot of what he says, but it all seems real to me.

I hate how xtoxm is acting here. It has that same wifom as Brigitte. But, I'm struggling to find somewhere better to vote.

VOTE: xtoxm

It's almost 3:30am here. goodnight.