Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Ankamius]

and a turn around like that is still objectively scummy so im going to call it out regardless

no

[Ankamius]

ank has already positioned to go after me if flub flips town and people are saying they wont reconsider anything on a townflip
so what is the fucking point

You would be correct if I hadn't pointed out quite a few times that I was putting all my credibility on the like with the Flubber lynch and that I would rethink everything upon him flipping town, which by the way close to nobody has acknowledged other than the other slot you are also scumreading, skitter.

But yes keep lying to suit your needs and avoid doing any real work on making your scumreads accountable or really anything to try to move the game forward, Xtoxm. It reads a lot more like you're trying to damage control a shitty situation to throw a fucking tantrum and OMGUS all the slots pushing you the hardest rather than try to town the fuck up and try to convince us to look elsewhere.

And saying I'm tunneled isn't an excuse, Elbirn has already done it and it took remarkably little effort from him to do so. Your response to this pressure

is
not
town.

[Creature]

I like both Flubber and Xtoxn wagons and I'd predict about one total scum between both of them.

Only one? You don’t think they’re linked?

Keep reading.

[Ankamius]

Flubber has had very lackluster posting, has posted literally nothing the last few days (ftr this points to Flubber being the scum of the two if these wagons are TvS), has generically responded with discrediting-style statements towards the suspicion on him, and really hasn't been making any counterpushes or trying to dismantle the wagon on him at all.

That's not necessarily scum by itself, but the way the gamestate is evolving around him makes aggressive uselessness a strong strategy in this situation.

My position here is shaky. There's a lot of support of these two wagons individually but there's little overall cohesion and the rest of the players that really haven't already hopped on are very unlikely to.

Why would Flubber need to do anything when the wagon on him is already stalled? All he needs to do is not say anything too scummy and he's already set to be released from being today's lynch. The support against the wagons is not going to get higher than it already is without a huge centralized push as it is until it gets too close to deadline. Plus my influence is actually waning over time, and there is the very real threat that if it gets low enough, the wagons will dissipate if for no better reason because I'm trying to lead them.

[Ankamius]

I'm not entirely sure who the third is here, my best guess is they're somebody trying to subtly shift away from this dichotomy, but I can't point to a specific person atm

[Ankamius]

Plus I can see scum adopting this low morale type of strategy in a game where there's obvtowns popping up and there's no nightkill to deal with them.

That's actually a big reason why I'm really suspicious of the Xtoxm slot, his predecessor put in a lot of raw effort at the start of the game and I can see someone who was in a good spot get really discouraged at how town were starting to get their shit together, only one of them was looking town enough to escape the town's wrath for a while, and the other two were not getting... well, anywhere really.

Xtoxm having no presence the entire game.
Flubber feeling really wooden and pushing like he doesn't really care.

I could see a few other slots fitting this general trend, too. Tris and Elbirn are the closest fits that I can see right now, maybe NMSA too.

Actually now that I think about it, it makes sense from a flubber+xtoxm+NMSA team

[Flubbernugget]

ok
why exactly was my vote on you 'bizarre'? eli5

I dunno anymore. Ask elbrin or one of the other players that took issue with it that you can't make an opportunistic push on.

[Flubbernugget]

what exactly is your read on me?

Deff burning through my early town read on you. But I wont scum read someone if the only thing I don't like is their push on me

[Flubbernugget]

How so?

I had to respond to you which was actually responding to ank which made me have to slice up a quote within a quote to respond to it. More importantly, why does it matter?

[Flubbernugget]

You're at the center of a whirlwind of groupthink and a shoddy townbloc and it can kick rocks, homeslice

This is a really good point and is probabaly the source of all of this vague "gamestate lynch" bullshit

[Flubbernugget]

Flubber feeling really wooden and pushing like he doesn't really care.

I dont care because you keep trashing this game with shitty excuses for reads and I'm not going to be the one to argue with you for five pages just to get some worthless "i cant really explain my read oh and by the way it's actually a shaky read ive been pushing this whole day phase teehee" crappity crap crap

[Ankamius]

Flubber feeling really wooden and pushing like he doesn't really care.

I dont care because you keep trashing this game with shitty excuses for reads and I'm not going to be the one to argue with you for five pages just to get some worthless "i cant really explain my read oh and by the way it's actually a shaky read ive been pushing this whole day phase teehee" crappity crap crap

?

The game was this dead long before this

[Flubbernugget]

this whole day phase

This is why i dont waste my fucking time

[Ankamius]

I wasn't taking control of the thread at the start of the day though?

I've only been doing that for the second half and the game was dead for a lot longer than that.

Will you start giving a shit if I stop posting then, I'd rather be shown I'm wrong by my targets towning up than to be shown I'm wrong because they didn't care enough to try

[Elbirn]

Mom dad stop fighting

[NotMySpamAccount]

Mom dad stop fighting

I'll admit it, I laughed. Seriously though, we need to pick one of Xtoxm and Flubber and lynch. Even if it's not your preferred lynch, those two are the only ones being lynched today and we all know it. Just pick one and get it to L-1 for a claim ath the bare minimum. I'd prefer flubber, but

@mod can we have a vote count?

I want to see which one is currently bigger, and then sheep it until we get somwhere.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: NMSA

[Ankamius]

Mom dad stop fighting

I'm not trying to :V

[Elbirn]

You're fine mate I'm just a dork
Vote NMSA I don't want him near lylo

[xRECKONERx]

I think Flubber is town. I think I disagree with a lot of what he says, but it all seems real to me.

I hate how xtoxm is acting here. It has that same wifom as Brigitte. But, I'm struggling to find somewhere better to vote.

VOTE: xtoxm

It's almost 3:30am here. goodnight.

but brigitte flipped town?

this reasoning is horse shit and might be a borderline scumslip

[Elbirn]

Hi reck are you voting tris? That'd be swell if you were.

Has anyone else played with tris before and can confirm that she always sounds like an awkward wooden robot, because yeah my issue with her is largely tone

[NotMySpamAccount]

You're fine mate I'm just a dork
Vote NMSA I don't want him near lylo

I'm not gonna sheep a lynch in lylo, I'm not that stupid. I just want a lynch on one of flubber or xtoxm because at least one is scum and needs to die.

[xRECKONERx]

my issue with that post is huge:

tris is pushing xtoxm using the same reasoning she used to push brigitte
but brigitte flipped town
i would expect town to reevaluate their reads on a townflip
but i think tris shows here that she's just pushing people's names out there without any actual thought behind the push?

argh im trying so hard to get the words out of my head that im thinking

basically, tris is on autopilot pushing on one of the major wagons and using shitty reasoning to get on board that resulted in a town flip last time but it doesn't occur to tris that is bad because tris is scum therefore everyone else is the same alignment so why would she need to change up her push/reasons/etc

god that's so confusing. ill try to step away and rethink how i can communicate my reasoning better

VOTE: tris

[Elbirn]

You're fine mate I'm just a dork
Vote NMSA I don't want him near lylo

I'm not gonna sheep a lynch in lylo, I'm not that stupid. I just want a lynch on one of flubber or xtoxm because at least one is scum and needs to die.

What am I missing that makes this dichotomy true
Because it sounds to me like you're bullshitting

[Ankamius]

I think I understand it reck

She's trying to coast by making false nothing pushes and relying on more active town shielding her and the trajectory of where town is focusing to hide her from everybody? Is this roughly it?