Mini 2063 - Rapier Upick Shuffle [Game Over]

[mbaki]

I d k

I vote u over him if that's that q

I'm a bot drunk

Are you struggling to sort my slot?

I had you as town

then rc tunnel

and people keep yelling me this is town RC even tho I sont

so therefore sheep best maybe

I want to lynch Varsoon hamyve

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

I've barely read their posts so I should do that

Ok that's a good answer ty Smiley

[RadiantCowbells]

I did, they parried me

mbaki should I be townreading you

who has told you this is town RC?

[RadiantCowbells]

Literally no one townreads me this game is

[mbaki]

literally nobody has scum read you what

[implosion]

Rc you were supposed to get annoyed at how I listed cheeseface in my reads list what gives

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

Literally no one townreads me this game is

You asked me a question earlier but apparently ignored my answer

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

Actually after my answer you said cheese needs to die

[implosion]

Parm you’re experiencing something called rc being snarky

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

Can't say I haven't experienced it before guess it's been a while.

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't even read your post yet implo

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I did now, but.

[JohnnyEnglish]

Johnny English, reporting back for duty.

It seems that there is more content than I thought would have been produced. I guess we can consider the lynch a little more.


RadiantCowbells, I don't necessarily townread Parm, but I find them a little more townier than Alonzo. They could be partners together, despite some distancing being done earlier in the game.

Cheers.

[JohnnyEnglish]

I feel like we're gonna Lynch town I'm gonna be nked and mbaki and others are gonna encourage people to forget I existed

What makes you say that?

[implosion]

I didn't even read your post yet implo

)’;

[JohnnyEnglish]

You're voting Alonzo.

If I voted Pram, would you say its a scum pushed wagon?

I would say you're bussing

Then why would anyone in their healthy mind ever listen to you, let alone lay down their vote?

[JohnnyEnglish]

I want to state again that I'm against an Alonzo wagon

the timing of his townreads/questions does indicate to me a level of genuine game-solving. posts like 206, 470, 490, 701 all registering on my town radar

and I felt his push on me was fair

What's your read on Varsoon?

Cheers.

I'm starting to scumread Varsoon myself

did you answer my question about your townreads on mbaki/michael scott?

Sure.

Both mbaki and Michael Scott are playing in approaches and manners that move the game forward.

In contrast, Alonzo is playing in a manner that moves the game backward.

I can't surmise how you can land on a townread on Alonzo for "genuine game-solving" when Michael Scott is in fact a much better example for the same reason.

I think Fractured is a pretty easy read for town and it's odd how, if I follow, you scumread Michael Scott for obtaining the obvious and likely correct read.

I don't see anything of merit from Alonzo.


Cheers.

[JohnnyEnglish]

Parm's wagon doesn't make sense to me. I don't see what Parm's done that merits being lynched. I've tried to ask people who I'm more familiar with and their answers haven't been satisfying.

Alonzo, I can get, but that's just cus the guy has a bit of an abrasive devil-may-care style to his posts. Dunno that it makes him scum.

Honestly, I'm fine with either flipping, given that they could be scum just playing in a way that doesn't ping to me and it'll give plenty of info that actually might drive my engagement towards scumhunting based on wagon comp. I just don't wanna be complicit in those lynches because then I get less information at the point of flip.

this pings me as real scummy

Varsoon doesn't want to commit to calling either slot as scum, but says he can flip either of them anyway. There's no care whatsoever about avoiding a lynch on town here.

Really? Because what I see is Varsoon is soft defending Alonzo.

Your analysis may be correct, however, in the possibility that Varsoon knows that both are town and wouldn't mind flipping either, but it's also possible that Varsoon knows Alonzo is his mafia teammate and wants to soft-defend while not hard-oppose the wagon.

I don't think this post actually makes a difference to my reads without further information and evidence.

Cheers.

[Varsoon]

Ya'll are all super off-base
The reality is that I'm town and ya'll are either angling me up as scum because you want some gullible townies to be the ones to finally vote me when I've outright claimed super saint.
Or you've all got really poor judgment and think I'm scum because you're bad at taking things at face value.
Can't say.
What I can say is that I don't appreciate people being like "Lol look at varsoon playing scummy" but not voting me.
It feels like you're saying "I know Varsoon is town, but here is a way I can cast his actions as scummy. Someone please believe me."

[JohnnyEnglish]

Ya'll are all super off-base
The reality is that I'm town and ya'll are either angling me up as scum because you want some gullible townies to be the ones to finally vote me when I've outright claimed super saint.
Or you've all got really poor judgment and think I'm scum because you're bad at taking things at face value.
Can't say.
What I can say is that I don't appreciate people being like "Lol look at varsoon playing scummy" but not voting me.
It feels like you're saying "I know Varsoon is town, but here is a way I can cast his actions as scummy. Someone please believe me."

Okay, then prove your towniness.




With a dance-off.

[RadiantCowbells]

tomorrow i'll be useful

[Enter]

I'm useless
But not for long
The Future
Is coming on is coming on is coming on

[Fractured]

I'm useless
But not for long
The Future
Is coming on is coming on is coming on

I pulled an Alyssa.

[Michael Scott]

this is also a bad reply - I'm progressively more confident on scum!Michael Scott at this point

Quote is a strawman of the argument I'm making. I'm not really saying people can't townread Fractured, rather the point is that your reasons for a "strong" townread on Fractured were notably weak in a way that doesn't really make sense from a townie.

1 - until/unless you actually re-evaluate, this means nothing. and it's not a counter to my point that the townread is bad to begin with
2 - cool, same. your justification for that stance remains extremely sketchy
3 - I didn't say anything about who they townread, had nothing to do with you. More just that saying "we RVS mindmelded on townreads" isn't at all a compelling reason to townread someone unless there's more to why you think those particular townreads are town-indicative.

Heavily disagree that the townread was bad. Mindmelding on RVS reads is a fine reason to throw an early townread, especially when the verdict is "all town". The RVS mindmeld wasn't the sole reason for a townread - I had additional reasons to strengthen my townread, which you dismissed as "could be within their scumrange" - which led to my quote.

Now, answer this - What is your experience with Volxen?

[Michael Scott]

It's not about Auro/Volxen's meta with you specifically, it's more about what I know of both players. Auro is incredibly insightful and capable as town, and Volxen I've seen go deep into trying to clear one of his pet townreads at the expense of paranoia of two otherwise rather obvtown slots (Auro/CoA) because he was so careful about accidentally town-clearing a potential deepwolf, here. I just can't comfortably grok that they would so casually shelve you as strong-town off what you'd contributed so far. It's an alarmingly bad justification for a townread.

I don't really care about the content of those posts, I care that they suggested you "had no need" to post them. Do you really agree that scum!you wouldn't feel bothered to give some better town-looking reads at that point?

Nevermind, I see this^.

What games of mine have you even read? You should know, by now, that I usually bucket people into townreads very early and strongly so, as my way of moving a game on, for admittedly weak reasons.

"Had no need" -> Your argument keeps coming around to "scum can do anything", and this can apply to any reason to townread anyone. Objectively, in that gamestate where nothing was really happening, yes - there is higher town motivation to advance the game and post solid reads instead of mucking around, and is a fine reason (again) to townread them.