Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[skitter30]

Yeah

I guess I'm getting nervous about sheeping you because you *were* wrong before and the wagon you want I'm not nearly as confident in as the one I wanted (tbf I'm not sure rn which wagon, if any, I'm confident in), but that one isn't really viable today

And I guess it isnt fair to get nervous about you pushing mislynches when i none of {xtxom/flubber} have been flipped yet but what you want doesnt quite align with what I want and if flubber is indeed an ic than you're 0/2 on flubber and brigitte and ???? On xtoxm

P-edit yeah this yook me a couple of minutes to write but yeah

I think you're town, not sure i trust your reads, not sure who i want to lynch

I might circle back to xtoxm idk yet

[Ankamius]

then vote tris

worst case scenario, she's town and the people that were up her ass all game will be forced to start looking elsewhere

and it's far enough away from what I want that it will remove too much credibility for me to want to push anymore

so

[Ankamius]

it's already been proven that trying to rally town isn't going to work

the best anyone can do is lynch the people that are always going to be distractions so that worst case we can stop the bleeding

town is not going to do that with tris alive because there's like 4 slots that are always going to default to that slot

the only thing that I'm worried about is if tris gets lynched, flips town, and the people that were on her just decide to disengage and not care rather than reengage elsewhere, because I'm not going to try the rallying approach a second time and I'm not sure who else is both willing and able to

[skitter30]

Yeah i was looking at the wagon comp, i mostly like it rn except for reck

I'm trying to decide if i want to resolve the flubber/xtoxm gamesolve thing today so that we can at least move on from that either way or if we should just wait for flubber's ic thing tomorrow because i guess that' have the same effect basically

I guess the other problem is that i dont really scumread tris. I just dont townread her either

But a lynch kinda needs to happen today so

I'm still quite surprised at the sheer amount of resistance the flubber wagon had

[Ankamius]

I'm done with the gamesolve, don't bother

[skitter30]

Yeah that's what i'm kinda weighing, the effect a townflip will have, since i dont actually know if she's scum

If she's town it'll remove a lhf mislynch (and i'd rather that happen now than like the day before lylo), but i think another townflip will screw with what little town cohesion there actually is * a lot* in this gamestate

So yeah

[skitter30]

Also i'm incredibly dubious of the day3 ic claim ngl

[skitter30]

I'm done with the gamesolve, don't bother

Yeah bit it caused enough controversy that its something that i think will fester if unresolved (kinda like unresolved 1v1 that just sits there for like 3 dayphases)

[Ankamius]

I doubt this town ever comes together lol

I got a lot of shit for 'taking over' the town but that was the highest cohesion we had all day and now that I've given up on it, I strongly suspect that what will happen is that people will go back to being disengaged with the game entirely

[Ankamius]

I'm done with the gamesolve, don't bother

Yeah bit it caused enough controversy that its something that i think will fester if unresolved (kinda like unresolved 1v1 that just sits there for like 3 dayphases)

tris has already been festering

you're not going to get cohesion anywhere else until she's gone

[Ankamius]

funny thing is I think that's roughly how NMSA will get lynched too eventually

and Xtoxm's attitude, if it never changes, will also be why he gets lynched

I think town has already lost if all these slots are town

[skitter30]

Yeah i know, but flipping someone who i dont really scumread necause if they're town they're going to be an inevitable mislynch is :/

But like i also dont have any better ideas for a lynch rn so

Pedit yeah fair tbh

VOTE: tris

[Ankamius]

eah i know, but flipping someone who i dont really scumread necause if they're town they're going to be an inevitable mislynch is :/

if you have any better ideas, I'm all ears

[skitter30]

Well at least it's nightless for the undetermined future
Idk the game being completely nightless with the usual amount of scum feels weird to me

Day3 ic with nightless also feels weird but tbf i dont know enough about the setup to really make that assessment rn

But like if he's ic and its nightless - does he just like never die? Do the night kills turn back on after he's been mod-confirmed as town?

[skitter30]

But like i also dont have any better ideas for a lynch rn so

[Elbirn]

Ank I've been trying not to undermine you because I've felt like you're coming from a good place and a town motivation

But I really need you to stop pretending the game revolves around you

And your preferred mislynches not getting thoughtlessly rammed through is not the same thing as town having no cohesion.

[Elbirn]

Furthermore

Where the fuck is Chara

[Chara]

Xtoxm's play is frustratimgly unhelpful if town and i want him to be scum. the petulant part of me wants to tell town Xtoxm "i'm town too, talk to me about

something

' but he refuses to be helpful or explain himself and the takes he puts out continue to be bad, like saying skitter's read change is scummy in spite of the very long amount of time it took for her to make that change. it's so much easier to say he's scum.
Flubber's IC claim is at least concrete, we can just wait for day 3.

i also don't think tris has been towny.
but in spite of being frustrated with Xtoxm's angle here if he is scum, and wondering if he's town for that, i also hate his angle as town. the only reason to think he's town is the AtE, and it's a bad reason and i know that.

i'll lynch tris if it comes to it but i feel Xtoxm is objectively better.

[Ankamius]

Ank I've been trying not to undermine you because I've felt like you're coming from a good place and a town motivation

But I really need you to stop pretending the game revolves around you

And your preferred mislynches not getting thoughtlessly rammed through is not the same thing as town having no cohesion.

what was town doing before I took control

[Chara]

Furthermore

Where the fuck is Chara

haha, hi. i work midnights on weekends.

[Chara]

funny thing is I think that's roughly how NMSA will get lynched too eventually

and Xtoxm's attitude, if it never changes, will also be why he gets lynched

I think town has already lost if all these slots are town

[tris]

Creature, why your vote? You haven't said much about me.

I don't know how to read Ank.

[Ankamius]

Ank I've been trying not to undermine you because I've felt like you're coming from a good place and a town motivation

But I really need you to stop pretending the game revolves around you

And your preferred mislynches not getting thoughtlessly rammed through is not the same thing as town having no cohesion.

and yes I'm aware that I let my ego get too out of control in games at times

the problem is that I don't feel like I had any choice but to try, the game ultimately died after the Brigitte lynch and nobody was really stepping up to make any strong pushes or trying to bring town together to get anything done

everyone was playing either like a support, mediator, or just disengaged entirely, a cohesive town doesn't function like that unless the overall town's reads are already cohesive with each other; town

needed

somebody to be assertive and actually get things done so that the game could actually progress because it wasn't happening otherwise

I probably bungled up the explanation for what I was doing, but ultimately I cared a lot less about the lynches and cared a lot more about getting people to actually engage and start coming together on something. The ultimate response I ended up getting is the same disorder that was there the entire day, except more forceful and giving me no indication that the engagement people are starting to show again is going to last longer than the current dichotomy is active

I've already stated how activity and engagement is low
I've already stated how I can see the next several lynches going
I've already stated how town is not coming together on anything and agreeing on anything

I've been so adamant on trying to get as much done as possible ASAP because I'm doing the most to

fix

all this, and my single biggest worry in this game is that I'm the only one that

can

in this game, which means that town is vulnerable to just losing that the moment nightkills are turned on, and then what? my specialty is being able to read the gamestate and how it's going to shape the game the next day, the day after that, etc. all the way to endgame.

and currently?

I see town losing if things aren't drastically shifted.

[Creature]

I'm on mobile rn

[Creature]

Creature, why your vote? You haven't said much about me.

I remember voting you D1 and you haven't convinced me otherwise yet.

Also I find your votes meh.