Greatest Idea VIII - Game Over

[Xtoxm]

sakura rolled scum huh
unfortunate

[Shadowlesscloud]

Any more mafia members wanna come out to play? or is both of you the only ones.

What are your other reads?

Besides the Elsa thing, whats your head at?

[Shadowlesscloud]

And did anyone ever expand on that one thing you said i wasnt alloud to talk about?

[Shadowlesscloud]

sakura rolled scum huh
unfortunate

-town

[Alchemist21]

@cloud, It seems like you’re concerned about a scenario in which they aren’t resolved this Night and I get it but there’s always D2. We already have the Elsa/Irrelephant dichotomy that nets at least 1 scum; it’s better to spend the rest of the Day sorting out others.

[Sakura Hana]

What are your other reads?

Besides the Elsa thing, whats your head at?

I actually think that elsa might be the real judas so let's say that's a TR and Irrelephant is probably mafia trying to convert him to mafia.
xtoxm is also a scumread, he just came out of nowhere and RVS alchemist considering there's discard info and then decides to join to lynch elsa, that's another SR.
I was SRing alchemist, but that flipped to a TR after my interactions with him.
Also TR pinturiccio.
Also TR brass.

I think that's about it. And pretty sure you know my read on you by now.

[Shadowlesscloud]

@cloud, It seems like you’re concerned about a scenario in which they aren’t resolved this Night and I get it but there’s always D2. We already have the Elsa/Irrelephant dichotomy that nets at least 1 scum; it’s better to spend the rest of the Day sorting out others.

I know theres a d2. But everyones acting like its up to night actions to resolve them and noone has given me a good enough response for if they dont

[Alchemist21]

oh
we should resolve that
VOTE: elsa

Here's the other mafia hoping to recruit a member.

Do you think Maf are specifically trying to recruit them or just hoping to waste our D1 lynch if Elsa’s telling the truth?

Seems wasteful to attempt recruiting someone who would be confirming themselves as scum in the process.

[Shadowlesscloud]

What are your other reads?

Besides the Elsa thing, whats your head at?

I actually think that elsa might be the real judas so let's say that's a TR and Irrelephant is probably mafia trying to convert him to mafia. - Disagree, why do you think Elsa is honest over Irrelephant? thats a 1:1 that doesnt play out well and just seemed too rushed of a CC for a mafia to do
xtoxm is also a scumread, he just came out of nowhere and RVS alchemist considering there's discard info and then decides to join to lynch elsa, that's another SR. - Honestly hard agree here.
I was SRing alchemist, but that flipped to a TR after my interactions with him. -Same TR on him
Also TR pinturiccio. - Agreed
Also TR brass. - Oh? I dont have much memory of them for now, will recheck if theres decent content from them?

I think that's about it. And pretty sure you know my read on you by now.

[Alchemist21]

@cloud, It seems like you’re concerned about a scenario in which they aren’t resolved this Night and I get it but there’s always D2. We already have the Elsa/Irrelephant dichotomy that nets at least 1 scum; it’s better to spend the rest of the Day sorting out others.

I know theres a d2. But everyones acting like its up to night actions to resolve them and noone has given me a good enough response for if they dont

If they don’t then we can start lynching them on D2. That’s the plan B.

[Sakura Hana]

Do you think Maf are specifically trying to recruit them or just hoping to waste our D1 lynch if Elsa’s telling the truth?

Seems wasteful to attempt recruiting someone who would be confirming themselves as scum in the process.

Dont think so? If elsa's telling the truth then we waste D1 lynch, and tonight they get 2 or more KPN favorable to them (albeit one of them being uninformed). Then Elsa's lynched and they don't have to worry, they removed a town member, a lynch, and got an extra shot for a night.
Sounds like an amazing package to me.

[Shadowlesscloud]

@cloud, It seems like you’re concerned about a scenario in which they aren’t resolved this Night and I get it but there’s always D2. We already have the Elsa/Irrelephant dichotomy that nets at least 1 scum; it’s better to spend the rest of the Day sorting out others.

I know theres a d2. But everyones acting like its up to night actions to resolve them and noone has given me a good enough response for if they dont

If they don’t then we can start lynching them on D2. That’s the plan B.

See, this is what i was wanting. Not "Just let the nights resolve it, dont worry about it". Confirmation that if we let it slide today, and its NOT resolved, then we wouldnt waste another day ignoring it.

p-edit: if thats the case then anyone being amazingly towny is spewed town as the mafia are not worried about Elsa shooting them.

[Xtoxm]

if people are gonna ignore a counterclaim then i'll just check out the game and go low effort mode

[Sakura Hana]

Can you please... not reply inside the quote? i almost missed your responses.
As for elsa, well i pointed out my reasoning. But actually looking back it's possible irrelephant's the one telling the truth >.<
as for xtoxm, didnt you say town? or was that - a "minus town"

[ofrhz]

Elsa is probably lying here

She was asking about the Judas card in the Mafia PT in the last iteration of this setup where I was scum with her, so she probably had this fakeclaim ready

That said, there's a slim chance that the stars of the universe have magically aligned and given Elsa the Judas card this game. Since I'm not 100% sure she's fakeclaiming, I don't want to lynch her today

[pinturicchio]

Hey look at that cake! Happy scumday ofrhz! Seems like yesterday

[Sakura Hana]

if thats the case then anyone being amazingly towny is spewed town as the mafia are not worried about Elsa shooting them.

This...
Is actually a really good point actually.

[Alchemist21]

The extra shot comes with a risk of it hitting them anyway because Elsa won’t get confirmation on who the Maf are. I guess it would make a difference in which alignment motivates their kill going into the Night though.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Can you please... not reply inside the quote? i almost missed your responses.
As for elsa, well i pointed out my reasoning. But actually looking back it's possible irrelephant's the one telling the truth >.<
as for xtoxm, didnt you say town? or was that - a "minus town"

I do +town or -town. Sorry if that confused you but it was definitely a -town thing.

also sorry about that but its just easier to show what i was specificaly talking to. I only do it for the things that are stacked like tht. Next time ill point it out and bold my responses

[ofrhz]

Hey look at that cake! Happy scumday ofrhz! Seems like yesterday

thank you! <3

[pinturicchio]

Elsa is probably lying here

She was asking about the Judas card in the Mafia PT in the last iteration of this setup where I was scum with her, so she probably had this fakeclaim ready

That said, there's a slim chance that the stars of the universe have magically aligned and given Elsa the Judas card this game. Since I'm not 100% sure she's fakeclaiming, I don't want to lynch her today

This is the best piece of information we've gotten about this Elsa vs Irrelephant thing.

[Shadowlesscloud]

if thats the case then anyone being amazingly towny is spewed town as the mafia are not worried about Elsa shooting them.

This...
Is actually a really good point actually.

Actually on second thought i need to edit it. Anyone amazingly towny is spewed not mafia. I forgot other factions exist.

p-edit: thats gonna be a big hmm for me boss

[ofrhz]

\o/

[Shadowlesscloud]

Hey look at that cake! Happy scumday ofrhz! Seems like yesterday

thank you! <3

^^ happy scumday (assuming its birthday?)

[Alchemist21]

if people are gonna ignore a counterclaim then i'll just check out the game and go low effort mode

Please don’t. There’s 21 slots and you’re going low-effort because of 2 that are easily resolved.

The counterclaim hasn’t been ignored, it’s just irrelephant at this stage.