Mini 2063 - Rapier Upick Shuffle [Game Over]

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

Lynch today should be Varsoon, I think. Maybe, mayyyybe Alonzo just because he'll 100% be a ML later if he's town.

VOTE: Varsoon

[JohnnyEnglish]

I do

if parm flips scum I am willing to do bridget next

If I flip town are you doing Radcow next? I'd rather not have that happen.

Will you flip town? I suggest you claim right now.

I will flip town, yes. I'm the Town Enhanced Parrier, I can parry anyone regardless of who they're voting. They switch to Not Voting and they forfeit the right to vote the player they were parried from for the rest of the DP.

I think Alonzo is town, and I am town, which makes your two top scumreads pretty bad from where I stand, Johnny.

Well, that's problematic then.

Rest assured that your slot and your flip will be treated respectfully and will be fully utilized to provide the maximum amount of information to town the next day, and, thanks to your cooperation, the remaining hours of today.

As of the current moment, here's to hoping that our pet seal would be more cooperative in future endeavours.

Cheers.

[mbaki]

who would you rather have go next

You, maybe. Or someone in GL/Varsoon/potentially Johnny? I haven't read through MS thoroughly, they probably deserve it. Maybe them.

Reality Check/Brigitte also have to be sorted.

I am town

Johnny is pretty clearly town

MS Varsoon andmaybe GL are people I'd consider here. if youretown I want Alonzo still but I cant vote him today so it smoot

[JohnnyEnglish]

Time for a drink.

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

Johnny is funny. He's a good character.

@Reality Check why did you scumread him?

[Fractured]

Spoiler: Sample of Parmesan's ISO w/ Comments

VOTE: Alonzo

Yikes!

Vote intends to draw attentioon, which is townie. Town baits, scum buddies.

Yikes what?

Later

Baiting

Short answer I don't believe Alonzo really thinks Glion is scum

Explains enough to keep attention on target

Lol I town read Parm regardless of Alonzo/GL flips

Are u buddying me

Aggressive and the opposite of buddying.

VOTE: Alonzo

Yikes!

This votes a bit cheesy

And you're scum

Smiley's and implo's trs of me from one vote don't make sense

Again, the opposite of buddying

NVM implo explained his

Developing reads and reacting to play

Smiley's is worse.

More of the same

Wait what implo my question to Smiley was a joke but I'd rather him respond than you, why u doing that

Looking for specific answers from specific people in an attempt to sort them.

Not entirely sure 120 is entirely honest, implo made one post between Smiley's saying he didn't have enough to scumread implo and voting implo.

Smiley, did you scumread Implo more based on 113? Why if so

Trying to develop reads

Ok Smiley does feel town.
But so does RC.

Read flip is not necessarily called for but he makes it anyways because he's uninformed and wants to find scum.

not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town

I don't like! Why let them off the hook like this? If they're scum, they've bought themselves a very easy townread. But more than that, if they're scum and you're town, what could convince you to vacate that townread? Their play later on? This statement of yours bothers me

Questioning conftowns that aren't mechanically confirmed or confirmed based off play on day 1 is pretty solid, IMO.

You realize that they are not masons correct

Then why is other RC so certain brigitte is town

More asking questions developing reads.

Are they?

I'll do a closer read with ISO of you three but the impression I got was that other RC was heavily against a Brigitte train.

Paying attention and keeping track of other players and how they're related shows investment in the game and desire to find out who's going where.

Think Varsoon might be scum.

Think Implo is almost definitely town.

Smiley seems town still, so does RC.

GL is scum.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

Brigitte is scum too I think.

This is not my main's playstyle, no. My main doesn't play on mobile at work.

Reads are developing and changing over time.

Parm what's your current read on Alonzo?

99 Alonzo pulls a thin justification for his RVS vote on GL
105 Either a 'OMG HES PRESSURING ME' or just trying to create a wagon
117 and 120 bad, the scum would be mbaki in this line of thinking not GL
243 was maybe a good point but also maybe nitpicking trying to look for fault in otherwise fine play, especially considering Reality Check is a hydra
255 renewing the thin justification for GL vote
258 is the worst kind of meta read
83 87 89 97 100 148 180 227 238 250 252 are all filler posts.

Damn, maybe he is scum. I had the impression from the filler posts that he was just being kind of frivolous but he's actually been pretty insistent on pushing GL for dubious reasons. 105 pushes one of my harder TRs (evidence? I can do closer reading, it's all mostly gut from one reading).

Evolution of a read. Applying thought, learning as the game moves.

Alright my vote's in the wrong place. Not sure what the right place is though. UNVOTE:

Again, adjusting to the game.

Also Varsoon I just read your ISO and I retract my lackluster/no push. But not being able to vote would be a pretty severe handicap for a town role.

I totally agree. Just played a game where the scum role was the one that lost the ability to vote (which Varsoon had, hence quoting "Deja Vu" at him).

I call it baiting...

Real talk tho, LB was a big time towny in bus drivers

You don't know how meta works and seem to be using bad meta for pushes, as you've done with LB and GL so far. Do you actually think that someone leading town in one game means that they're scum when they're quieter, or someone tending to make elaborate pushes as town means they're scum when they aren't doing so in the first 10 pages?

We know parma is reading other people, so why maintain the unfounded stuff and come up with something more concrete on me?

It's funny that you say this when I went through your entire ISO in 467, and you even responded to it. In fact yours is the only ISO I've actually deep dived so far.

Still haven't done my homework on Brigitte/Reality, mostly because I agree that they're probably town.

I also like Johnny English. Advancing the game at a point where scum could potentially wait around for a last minute lynch.

VOTE: Alonzo[/vote
]This is good.

This failure of a vote is tragic.

3 am phoneposting at work lmao. Quote is messing with my vote tag so I'll revote in a separate post if need be.

@Varsoon why do you think Implosion is scum?

More advancement of his reads, notice the read flip on Brigitte/RealityCheck - town now, where he was pushing them to at least be questioned before.

@Radiant - 467 and 468 don't really strike me as posts that scum would make

generally both he and Alonzo feel like D1 lynchbait

I might still come around on Parm but I wanna see more of who jumps on that wagon first

Thing is despite the effort to read me, his conclusions are poor, and he skipped straight over the most alignment indicative post I made (or rather didn't mention it because the meaning could be interpreted as either alignment.
Hasn't adjusted his read to anything I have done since, and hasn't looked at my larger meta)

Maybe it will change, but rn parm just looks agenda driven

What you've done since also feels scummy. I read meta when it feels useful, I don't meta everyone I vote.

If you want to help you could link a scum game you're proud of.

Working to develop a read on Alonzo, instead of just scumreading him and pushing back, which would be easy considering the number of players scumreading Alonzo.

Does anyone townread parmigiano

Can they explain why

Parmigiana how do you feel about my push on you?

I think it probably comes from a town PoV. I doubt that the suspicion is contrived, you have a lot of it from many posts. And people seem to be ignoring it, which if I were pushing a vote would make town!me even more insistent on it, and might make scum!me back off.

Btw re: 397 I think it would be hard to defend the side of Alonzo actually believing his GL scumread. 99 implies that GL's 92 is scum indicative, how could that possibly be a real opinion? Then he switches from GL to Implo then back to GL, saying in 120 that mbaki's waffling made him think Implo was town. Which would implicate mbaki, yet he goes back to voting GL. Feels like he just picked someone to tag his vote on.

How does this idea implicate GL, rather than Alonzo? I'm implying that Alonzo was using an unwavering GL scumread as an excuse not to participate in gamesolving, and is now on my wagon because apparently I am making wrong conclusions about him.

Oh yeah, 849 is a scumtell too.

Legitimate analysis of someone else's vote on you is difficult to do, especially when the end result is to assess the other player as town.

I d k

I vote u over him if that's that q

I'm a bot drunk

Are you struggling to sort my slot?

Trying to work with other players to develop the game in a positive manner.

1) RadiantCowbells

2) GuiltyLion
3) Michael Scott (hydra of Volxen and Auro)

4) Alonzo

5) Brigitte

6) Varsoon

7) Fractured (Enter + Taly)

8) mbaki

9) JohnnyEnglish

10) implosion

11) Lovebird

12) Parmigiano Reggiano

13) Reality Check (Ankamius Mastina)

I'll vote these people today and nobody else, I think.

Development of reads, working through the game down to a small enough player list.

TL;DR Parmesan has interacted with just about every player in the game, AFAIK and is actively developing and changing reads - even to the point of taking controversial stances and not pushing wagons that are counter to his own over trying to read the player instead. I don't think I saw a single point where I saw Parmesan take the easy way out, and while I mostly skimmed, the posts I didn't quote seemed to be more of the same. Someone please explain to me why they think Parmesan is a decent lynch, because in all honesty he's probably one of the strongest town players here.

[mbaki]

I voted him because I am trying to sort RC

[mbaki]

Johnny is funny. He's a good character.

@Reality Check why did you scumread him?

you just suggested him as a lynch

[RadiantCowbells]

you sort me by flipping my scumreads

[mbaki]

man everything fractured posts is fucing cringy and obnoxious I really need to hear the town case on them

[RadiantCowbells]

i'll give u a hint there is none

but everyone's busy going after awkward alonzo instead of the scummy people

[mbaki]

you sort me by flipping my scumreads

and I'm voting him!

well not anymore that claim is probably town

if you want the rc show to continue vote Bridgi

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

Johnny is funny. He's a good character.

@Reality Check why did you scumread him?

you just suggested him as a lynch

Yes? I'm not challenging the scumread, I am trying to figure out why it exists.

[JohnnyEnglish]

Johnny is funny. He's a good character.

@Reality Check why did you scumread him?

Sorry, my friend, but you died. I shot you with my MI6-issued specialized enhanced spy revolver with lethal South African snake poison which leads to total paralysis and death within 12 hours.

You'll be given a proper funeral and generous compensation to your family courtesy of MI6.

[RadiantCowbells]

note that fractured has been hard defending parm all game and also has bad associatives with brigitte

[mbaki]

i'll give u a hint there is none

but everyone's busy going after awkward alonzo instead of the scummy people

my vote at least is policy I dont really care qhat his alignment is, and policy vote is better than none when I have no strong srs

but you said yourself you ant read him so hes just as likely scum (well liks 30% or w.e the math is but ya)

but u dont agree that claim is townie? its provable and came earlier than scum would.need to

granted if that's his real role xcum the theres now reason to not claim there

[JohnnyEnglish]

Fractured's town case on Parm sounds like "TMI" - insider information, but I'm just reeling from shooting an innocent guy.


Time for another drink.

[mbaki]

note that fractured has been hard defending parm all game and also has bad associatives with brigitte

I mean also true

[RadiantCowbells]

why is that claim probably town

[RadiantCowbells]

like... he doesn't claim something confirmable if its not true...

[Parmigiano Reggiano]

why is that claim probably town

Appreciate the stalling on my wagon, but I have the same question.

[mbaki]

cause it came at l-2 Nd scum are usually very conservative with claiming ime compared to town

[RadiantCowbells]

i wouldn't mind lynching fractured tbh

cause it came at l-2 Nd scum are usually very conservative with claiming ime compared to town

this is pretty weak.

[mbaki]

meh
do u want my vote back on him?

[JohnnyEnglish]

I believe that the manner in which he claimed, plus his willingness to cooperate with law enforcement as well as the rest of the town strongly points towards Parm town.