Greatest Idea VIII - Game Over

[Vedith]

Claiming mafia as Mafia is still against wincon.
I do not believe it.

[pinturicchio]

Should we hold off a bit and find a good target for the Dayvig before hammering Elsa? Doc Protection isn’t guaranteed for them here.

P-edit: Someone doesn’t want to lynch because 1-shot lynchproof and someone doesn’t want to Dayvig because bulletproof. Let’s stop playing these what-ifs and decide what’s overall optimal.

I was the one who suggested lynching instead of shooting 'cause we could abstain the dayvig shot for tomorrow after we get NKA, but now that Vedith suggested that Elsa could be Saulus, I got paranoid about Vedith, 'cause that's PERFECT for a 1 shot unlynchable.

[Alchemist21]

Personally I’d prefer the dayvig Elsa option myself since it frees up the lynch to pressure elsewhere.

Most mods I’ve seen let people claim scum as scum, just can’t claim who your partners are.

[pinturicchio]

Claiming mafia as Mafia is still against wincon.
I do not believe it.

It's surrendering. I did it on a Newbie game that became mechanically impossible to win due to an oopsie from my partner.

[Sakura Hana]

Most mods I’ve seen let people claim scum as scum, just can’t claim who your partners are.

That's basically called Giving up.

[Alchemist21]

Should we hold off a bit and find a good target for the Dayvig before hammering Elsa? Doc Protection isn’t guaranteed for them here.

P-edit: Someone doesn’t want to lynch because 1-shot lynchproof and someone doesn’t want to Dayvig because bulletproof. Let’s stop playing these what-ifs and decide what’s overall optimal.

I was the one who suggested lynching instead of shooting 'cause we could abstain the dayvig shot for tomorrow after we get NKA, but now that Vedith suggested that Elsa could be Saulus, I got paranoid about Vedith, 'cause that's PERFECT for a 1 shot unlynchable.

How is that making you suspicious of Vedith?

[pinturicchio]

I have a feeling that TTTT was trolling and he isn't a actually a dayvig

[Vedith]

Also I think Pintu is not town here.

[Sakura Hana]

I have a feeling that TTTT was trolling and he isn't a actually a dayvig

That's irrelevant at this point, except for the fact that we have to lynch Elsa.
His dayvig at the very least caused Elsa to give up, whether real or fake.

[Alchemist21]

I have a feeling that TTTT was trolling and he isn't a actually a dayvig

Beautiful gambit if true.

[Sakura Hana]

Also I think Pintu is not town here.

I was thinking the opposite, what makes you feel he's not town?

[Sakura Hana]

I have a feeling that TTTT was trolling and he isn't a actually a dayvig

Beautiful gambit if true.

I mean dayvig is the most fake claimed role ever on MS.

[pinturicchio]

Should we hold off a bit and find a good target for the Dayvig before hammering Elsa? Doc Protection isn’t guaranteed for them here.

P-edit: Someone doesn’t want to lynch because 1-shot lynchproof and someone doesn’t want to Dayvig because bulletproof. Let’s stop playing these what-ifs and decide what’s overall optimal.

I was the one who suggested lynching instead of shooting 'cause we could abstain the dayvig shot for tomorrow after we get NKA, but now that Vedith suggested that Elsa could be Saulus, I got paranoid about Vedith, 'cause that's PERFECT for a 1 shot unlynchable.

How is that making you suspicious of Vedith?

Elsa acts like caught scum and his wagon gets momentum; Vedith jumps in before the lynch and suggests the Saulus thing. Elsa doesn't die, Elsa gets brownie points because the Saulus theory is believable (he claimed Judas, he didn't die, etc). Elsa coasts and win. Vedith boosted that. Makes sense?

[Performer]

Some cards can have multiple, some can not. Hero and Judas only have 1 slot each.

I had the hero card, Irrele had the Judas card.

K my vote is going on ej, waiting on the next vc update.

Why wait for the upcoming vc? This is meh, not the worst but just weird.

But shoot this scummy fuck too or lynch him. Either way.

If I had to deal with THIS as my chance to win, I'm glad I got killed early on instead of relying on this WW/Cult/SK/Alien as assistance.

Nope, town here.

VOTE: Elsa

Fun fact: saw Disney on Ice earlier this month, Frozen & other performances by the cast, were awesome.

Yo, have we played together in the past? Not game related but I feel like I recognize your name.

I'm not townreading you off meta , if that's what you're wondering...
It's something else .

I think I played with you in some theme game with Titus & Silverwolf before?? I don't recall your meta

The panic brushoff here. "Oh shit he's engaging me, act Townie" so he throws out the unprecedented townread and shifts it to as if Sakura is asking about his town read. (Which I don't ever remember being stated before)

Upcoming vc was to gauge reactions. The quick move toward a lynch was too fast since we just began the game on Saturday. Scum WOULD like a quicker lynch to limit info though.

Regarding 2nd point, say whaaat?? Who was even takling about sakura? She & I are almost the same age (only like 1 or 2 yrs apart) and we probably played a game or more in the past but that's about it.

[Vedith]

Also I think Pintu is not town here.

I was thinking the opposite, what makes you feel he's not town?

Last game I made it pretty clear I will never choose factional Scum over town or 3rd party. So unless I got 3 factional Scum roles Pintu knows that me as Scum with Elsa is not very likely.

Also the way I assisted in forcing the win last game I can see non town Pintu wanting to try and shade me here.

[Alchemist21]

Kinda? But Vedith wouldn’t know if Elsa is really Saulus though, right? It only really makes sense if they knew Elsa was Saulus.

[Alchemist21]

I’m getting ninja’d too much.

[Vedith]

Kinda? But Vedith wouldn’t know if Elsa is really Saulus though, right? It only really makes sense if they knew Elsa was Saulus.

Scum know who Saulus are but not other way round I believe.
That's if I was Scum of course.

[Xtoxm]

Also I think Pintu is not town here.

I was thinking the opposite, what makes you feel he's not town?

Last game I made it pretty clear I will never choose factional Scum over town or 3rd party. So unless I got 3 factional Scum roles Pintu knows that me as Scum with Elsa is not very likely.

Also the way I assisted in forcing the win last game I can see non town Pintu wanting to try and shade me here.

most people here wouldnt choose factional scum unless all 3 cards are factional scum
its a moot point

[pinturicchio]

Also I think Pintu is not town here.

I was thinking the opposite, what makes you feel he's not town?

Last game I made it pretty clear I will never choose factional Scum over town or 3rd party. So unless I got 3 factional Scum roles Pintu knows that me as Scum with Elsa is not very likely.

Also the way I assisted in forcing the win last game I can see non town Pintu wanting to try and shade me here.

I didn't remember that! I'm not trying to shade you though, I explicitly said I'm getting paranoid. I still think the most logical explanation on this is that Elsa is caught scum/3p and you just gave your input on the subject.

[Xtoxm]

anyone who discarded scum cards are deffo the best place to start looking, too
after we sort out elsa

[Sakura Hana]

Kinda? But Vedith wouldn’t know if Elsa is really Saulus though, right? It only really makes sense if they knew Elsa was Saulus.

He'd know if Elsa's Mafia 1-shot Lynchproof tho.
That's his theory i think.

[Vedith]

most people here wouldnt choose factional scum unless all 3 cards are factional scum
its a moot point

But I made it clear in the previous game I would rather be VT than Scum factional.
I don't believe others have that mind set.

[pinturicchio]

Kinda? But Vedith wouldn’t know if Elsa is really Saulus though, right? It only really makes sense if they knew Elsa was Saulus.

No no, it makes sense if Elsa is 1 shot unlynchable, therefore, being partners and knowing each other. The Saulus part is all a trick.

p-edit yeah what Sakura said.

[Sakura Hana]

most people here wouldnt choose factional scum unless all 3 cards are factional scum
its a moot point

But I made it clear in the previous game I would rather be VT than Scum factional.
I don't believe others have that mind set.

I do