Greatest Idea VIII - Game Over

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: TemporalLich Ladies and gentleman...

[Shadowlesscloud]

Spoiler:

@temporalLich, can you give a reason why? And vig maybe sure but what about the Judas part?

I'm trusting Irrelephant's CC on the Judas card for now.

No one's counterclaimed Elsa's Vigilante card and I don't have much reason to disbelieve Elsa being Vigilante (if I were wrong about Elsa lying about being Vig, I'd probably get shot).

Wait so

you believe Elsa is a vig

just not a judas vig?

Exactly. I still nullread Elsa so I'm not sure whether it's a town!vig (good) or a 3p!vig (bad) or a scum!vig (really, really bad).

Why would Elsa fakeclaim Judas as Town?

I have no idea and the concept of town claiming Judas is just confusing as to why it would happen.

3p!vig Elsa is most likely especially considering 289 and the fact scum!vig is busted.

I feel like temporal lich should have been pushing Elsa harder given his take on the situation here. He didn’t think Elsa was Judas because he believed irrel’s cc, and he didn’t have any reason for thinking Elsa could have been town. Yet his vote was on Sakura all this time.

So? I was getting heat for not moving off Elsa while in the situation.

People made it clear that they wanted night actions to resolve the two before Mr dayvig appeared

[Irrelephant11]

TemporalLich how do you read Alchemist

[ofrhz]

Why would you need night actions to resolve the two if you believed the Judas cc and didn’t think Elsa was going to flip town?

Most people wanted night actions to resolve the slots because they weren’t sure which side to take and thought irrelevant could have been mafia getting the Judas lynched

[ofrhz]

I don’t know how my autocorrect has not yet remembered irrelephant

[Shadowlesscloud]

Why would you need night actions to resolve the two if you believed the Judas cc and didn’t think Elsa was going to flip town?

Most people wanted night actions to resolve the slots because they weren’t sure which side to take and thought irrelevant could have been mafia getting the Judas lynched

A "jic" type thing ig. Doesn't change the point though

[Sakura Hana]

and thought irrelevant could have been mafia getting the Judas lynched

I think I was the only one that thought that, or at least the only one that mentioned thinking that.

[Shadowlesscloud]

and thought irrelevant could have been mafia getting the Judas lynched

I think I was the only one that thought that, or at least the only one that mentioned thinking that.

Think i mentioned a 1:1 of that situation being iffy

[Shadowlesscloud]

I did because j mentioned that it would have had to have been a rush judgement call on his part that couldn't have been decided by an entire scum team

[Alchemist21]

@Mod: replace me out please

I'm so sorry that I have to do this, but there are so many players in this game that the number of posts are overwhelming. I'm also busy in real life right now with unforeseen circumstances, and I just can't handle a game this large.

That’s too bad. See you next time then.

[TemporalLich]

TemporalLich how do you read Alchemist

Townread

You're still scummy for discarding Cop though.

VOTE: TemporalLich

What even is your case against me?

I don't TR Sakura despite the towny ISO and you can't strongarm me into TRing her.

[ofrhz]

Why would you need night actions to resolve the two if you believed the Judas cc and didn’t think Elsa was going to flip town?

Most people wanted night actions to resolve the slots because they weren’t sure which side to take and thought irrelevant could have been mafia getting the Judas lynched

A "jic" type thing ig. Doesn't change the point though

I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make then I guess

I think you pushing Elsa was towny since you were going against the grain in a sense

Whereas temporal lich was blending in more while maintaining his belief that Elsa was not Judas

As an addendum to the “blending in” thing, he makes posts that don’t really provide value and look like busywork. 306 is a good example.

[TemporalLich]

I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make then I guess

I think you pushing Elsa was towny since you were going against the grain in a sense

Whereas temporal lich was blending in more while maintaining his belief that Elsa was not Judas

As an addendum to the “blending in” thing, he makes posts that don’t really provide value and look like busywork. 306 is a good example.

That's a pretty serious accusation against Shadowless, I hope you're sure.

[Performer]

Performer’s posts feel empty, as I’ve said
Davesaz posts feel IIOA-y

Why do you always scumread me?
On a serious note, added shad & irrel to scumreads. The accusation of empty posts & scumreading a townread of mine, is too fishy .

@micc can I get my own pt to document thoughts ?

[ofrhz]

I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make then I guess

I think you pushing Elsa was towny since you were going against the grain in a sense

Whereas temporal lich was blending in more while maintaining his belief that Elsa was not Judas

As an addendum to the “blending in” thing, he makes posts that don’t really provide value and look like busywork. 306 is a good example.

That's a pretty serious accusation against Shadowless, I hope you're sure.

I think you need to reread my post

[Irrelephant11]

Performer’s posts feel empty, as I’ve said
Davesaz posts feel IIOA-y

Why do you always scumread me?
On a serious note, added shad & irrel to scumreads. The accusation of empty posts & scumreading a townread of mine, is too fishy .

@micc can I get my own pt to document thoughts ?

Why did you townread davesaz

[TemporalLich]

This game is very overwhelming (then again it's a Large so it's to be expected).

Not doing rainbow reads because oh god that would be too much too soon.

So here's this instead:

Bad Read List:

Townread - Alchemist21, Vedith
Townlean - Irrelephant11, Xtoxm
Neutral - pinturicchio
Contested - Shadowlesscloud
Scumlean - JunkoChan, pinturicchio, ofrhz, davesaz
Scumread - Elsa Jay, Sakura Hana, Performer

[Irrelephant11]

Tinfoil hat says alchemist and lynch are groupscum with elsa
I got ~vibes~ in that direction but I only really scumread lich out of the two in isolation (because of ofrhz’s good case)

[TemporalLich]

I think you need to reread my post

dude you ltierally said I was blending in and Shadowless was "going against the grain in a sense".

[Micc]

Searching for a replacement for Allomancer.

Votecount 1.12

Elsa Jay (7) -

Irrelephant11, Vedith, brassherald, JunkoChan, Elsa Jay, Xtoxm, Performer

Sakura Hana (3) -

TemporalLich, DoubtingThomas, Allomancer

TemporalLich (3) -

davesaz, ofrhz, pinturicchio

Alchemist21 (1) -

Blooper

Not Voting (7) -

TTTT, NotMySpamAccount, Gamma Emerald, Chemist1422, Sakura Hana, Shadowlesscloud, Alchemist21

With 21 players alive it takes 11 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-03-30 23:30:00).

[Xtoxm]

i think that looking for connections to elsa is a waste of time
especially before we see if he even flips groupscum

[Performer]

Performer’s posts feel empty, as I’ve said
Davesaz posts feel IIOA-y

Why do you always scumread me?
On a serious note, added shad & irrel to scumreads. The accusation of empty posts & scumreading a townread of mine, is too fishy .

@micc can I get my own pt to document thoughts ?

Why did you townread davesaz

He's been helpful, anyone who looks at his interaction(s) with me & what he's been posting including his vote(s), can see that. So saying it is iioa is fairly eye popping. Maybe I'm biased because this is a large & it's a theme I'm new to, but I'd like as much info as possible.

Tinfoil hat says alchemist and lynch are groupscum with elsa
I got ~vibes~ in that direction but I only really scumread lich out of the two in isolation (because of ofrhz’s good case)

I don't follow.

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@temp why do you have pint listed twice in your list?

[TemporalLich]

@temp why do you have pint listed twice in your list?

Forgot to remove him from scumlean when putting him in neutral

[Alchemist21]

i think that looking for connections to elsa is a waste of time
especially before we see if he even flips groupscum

Tinfoil hat says alchemist and lynch are groupscum with elsa
I got ~vibes~ in that direction but I only really scumread lich out of the two in isolation (because of ofrhz’s good case)

What links us together in your mind?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Now that you talked about someone not posting yet, Sakura, you reminded me that there are a lot of players who haven't contributed a lot on this dayphase even if we have discussed like one or two relevant things. ofrhz gets a pass 'cause if Elsa flips scum, ofrhz is never her partner because of calling him out on the Judas thing. But where are Blooper, DT and Gamma? I could be forgetting other people too.

The fact that even when talking about the people who aren't posting I can slip by unnoticed is not good. Scum could be lurking. Occam's Razor says Elsa is scum and needs dayvigging, not rope. More to follow maybe.