BoP Mafia Chat

[Michael Scott]

It could be URAP + Shoshin, but it couldn't really be that, either, because Shoshin seems to have legitimate concerns about URAPs alignment.

See what I meant?

[Michael Scott]

Shoshin: My suggestion is that you chillax now and change your tone to something a lot more relieved, if you will. I can't imagine the content of such a post - I'm trying to think - but such a reaction should make Enter paranoid about his "simplest" guess.

[Michael Scott]

Okay, maybe goading him into it works too. *Shrug*

[Michael Scott]

I'm so incentivized to make the wrong decision right now. Trust me I want to just put it through. But MS' post game play is not indicative of playing to a scum wincon, especially for a player who knows I very much suspect it is you and him.

Say hi to master manipulator Auro

[Michael Scott]

I'm going to rule out MS completely based solely off of the refusal to try and screw with my reads when he has every reason to try to do so. Someone tell me I'm completely mad if this is the case.

Guess who's having a smug ass smile on his face.

Shoshin call him mad please

[Michael Scott]

I'm going to rule out MS completely based solely off of the refusal to try and screw with my reads when he has every reason to try to do so. Someone tell me I'm completely mad if this is the case.

Guess who's having a smug ass smile on his face.

Shoshin call him mad please

Now's the time to point out that Auro hasn't lost a scum game, very capable blah blah

[Michael Scott]

I wish you read this thread, Shoshin. A lack of comment on my slot is gonna get him back to MS+Shoshin, with a >50% chance.

[Shoshin]

Keep lurking it out.

[Michael Scott]

I'm lurking - I think you need to stoke Auro paranoia and point out RC+MS is still a viable solve.

[Shoshin]

Can you give me reasons to rule out me/U2? I think ruling out me/U2 and ruling out me/you is the way to go. Process of elimination via possible teams.

[Shoshin]

Let's compile as many reasons to rule out these connections as possible.

[Michael Scott]

The simplest argument is URAP's progression on you: He maintained a strong TR on you and even at one point mentioned "RC and I won't vote Shoshin today" (search it up). If Shoshin+URAP is the team, it's a dangerous risk to take.

[Shoshin]

Should I say this: "By the way, confirmed town Saudade was pushing RC/U2 at the end. Did you catch that, Enter? I think people who are getting mislynched in LYLO-type situations almost always have a pretty good feel for who the scum are."

[Shoshin]

The simplest argument is URAP's progression on you: He maintained a strong TR on you and even at one point mentioned "RC and I won't vote Shoshin today" (search it up). If Shoshin+URAP is the team, it's a dangerous risk to take.

But that applies to my argument for RC/U2 as well, no?

[Auro]

The simplest argument is URAP's progression on you: He maintained a strong TR on you and even at one point mentioned "RC and I won't vote Shoshin today" (search it up). If Shoshin+URAP is the team, it's a dangerous risk to take.

But that applies to my argument for RC/U2 as well, no?

You want to legitimately have him discard the idea?
You could supply bad arguments, or arguments that apply to other teams too - it'll increase his paranoia for Shoshin+U2

[Auro]

Should I say this: "By the way, confirmed town Saudade was pushing RC/U2 at the end. Did you catch that, Enter? I think people who are getting mislynched in LYLO-type situations almost always have a pretty good feel for who the scum are."

He wasn't, Saudade pushed URAP+MS.

His RC vote was spite, not because he thought RC was scum.

[Shoshin]

I want him to go with RC/U2. I want neither of us getting suspected.

[Auro]

When I'm actually free I'll attempt to read parts of the game again. In a few hours maybe.

[Shoshin]

Okay, cool. I think if we put together a strong case for it not being me/U2, he'll pick RC/U2.

The WiFOM around the idea that scum me never does the above if I'm partnered with you should be enough to really seal the deal imo.

[Auro]

I want him to go with RC/U2. I want neither of us getting suspected.

We can achieve an easier goal (him guessing Shoshin+URAP) with the same functional result (us winning), and there's a really good chance he's reaction testing (although I doubt Enter makes high level plays, but looks like it)

[Auro]

WIFOM is the way to go, Enter is easily manipulated. But natural sounding WIFOM though

[Auro]

The simplest argument is URAP's progression on you: He maintained a strong TR on you and even at one point mentioned "RC and I won't vote Shoshin today" (search it up). If Shoshin+URAP is the team, it's a dangerous risk to take.

But that applies to my argument for RC/U2 as well, no?

It doesn't, actually, because the power equation is different. RC had complete control over the game, and was widely townread - URAP townreading him was an extremely safe move.


The same wouldn't apply to a Shoshin URAP team.

[Shoshin]

But he townread RC early, very early.

[Shoshin]

Anyway, I'm gonna take a break from posting.

[Auro]

But he townread RC early, very early.

RC was always going to make the power move of taking control, too.
Also, they're not going to think about it as critically as you are, Shoshin. Trust me.