Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

Ankamius · Post Post #3400 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:58 pm

What's Charas plan here exactly?

Nimueh · Post Post #3401 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:00 pm

In post 3394, Ankamius wrote:Flubber was on the tris wagon

It's not impossible that scum dog piled on tris (1 more scum on that wagon) since that would make Brigitte look a lot worse upon a tris flip

Also just noting here that skitter was the only slot that didn't vote for either lynch wagon

Just noting (:

Yes and she also had the weird votepark on Flubber, which she got called out on.

Flubber/Chara/Skitter as the scumteam would not be a complete shock to me at this point. I just don’t believe Chara’s reads progression post-Flubber flip is sincere.

Tris was his #1 push, pre-flip and post-flip she’s practically townlock. Tris could still be town, I’m just not buying Chara’s sudden readchange on her. It’s almost like we are seeing two different Chara’s pre and post-Flubber flip.

Nimueh · Post Post #3402 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:08 pm

In post 3400, Ankamius wrote:What's Charas plan here exactly?

If she’s scum, to push mislynches. Unlike you, there is nothing that confitowns her but she has someone who voted similar to he as a “leftover” and How did Creature become less obvtown post-Flubber flip? And how did Skitter become suddenly obvtown because of it?

None of that is making any sense to me. And yeah, I feel very confident that if bussing occurred on Brigitte wagon, it wasn’t Succinct. It’s primarily because my hard townread on Enter slot has increased. It’s not as strong as Creature/you but I would be legit shocked if Succinct ever flips scum here.

Nimueh · Post Post #3403 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:11 pm

In post 3402, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3400, Ankamius wrote:What's Charas plan here exactly?
If she’s scum, to push mislynches. Unlike you, there is nothing that confitowns her but she has someone who voted similar to he as a “leftover” and How did Creature become less obvtown post-Flubber flip? And how did Skitter become suddenly obvtown because of it?

None of that is making any sense to me. And yeah, I feel very confident that if bussing occurred on Brigitte wagon, it wasn’t Succinct. It’s primarily because my hard townread on Enter slot has increased. It’s not as strong as Creature/you but I would be legit shocked if Succinct ever flips scum here.

Sorry, I mean that if scum was driving Brigitte wagon.

Ankamius · Post Post #3404 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:11 pm

I'll look at succinct later, that slot isn't super important to me atm

I'd still like to lock that slot down before end of day though, I'd much rather not hit a situation where they're scum and end the day before I really look at them and just kill me, then charisma through to victory

Nimueh · Post Post #3405 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:14 pm

In post 3398, Ankamius wrote:Why is Elbirn town?

I could be wrong on that. I just don’t tr Chara anymore.

Nimueh · Post Post #3406 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:18 pm

In post 3404, Ankamius wrote:I'll look at succinct later, that slot isn't super important to me atm

I'd still like to lock that slot down before end of day though, I'd much rather not hit a situation where they're scum and end the day before I really look at them and just kill me, then charisma through to victory

Yeah I understand but the only way I’m ever voting Succinct here, is if I’m in LYLO with one of Creature/you and him. Otherwise, I don’t even want to touch his wagon.

Ankamius · Post Post #3407 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:18 pm

I'll do a deeper analysis when I can get back to my desktop

I don't have enough time for more than surface level thoughts atm

Nimueh · Post Post #3408 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:22 pm

In post 3406, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3404, Ankamius wrote:I'll look at succinct later, that slot isn't super important to me atm

I'd still like to lock that slot down before end of day though, I'd much rather not hit a situation where they're scum and end the day before I really look at them and just kill me, then charisma through to victory
Yeah I understand but the only way I’m ever voting Succinct here, is if I’m in LYLO with one of Creature/you and him. Otherwise, I don’t even want to touch his wagon.

Creature/you/Succinct are currently my top townreads. I understand why you’re not as confident as I am, on Succinct town.

Ankamius · Post Post #3409 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:37 pm

In post 3408, Nimueh wrote:I understand why you’re not as confident as I am, on Succinct town.

They're a very good scum player

I wouldn't even call pushing on Flubber after the IC thing town indicative

Nimueh · Post Post #3410 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:50 pm

In post 3409, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3408, Nimueh wrote:I understand why you’re not as confident as I am, on Succinct town.
They're a very good scum player

I wouldn't even call pushing on Flubber after the IC thing town indicative

It’s because of

Enter

. I’m hardtown reading HIM. I’m pretty much convinced this is obvtown Enter in this game. I don’t believe this is his scumgame here. My townlock on Succinct is primarily based on Enter ISO.

skitter30 · Post Post #3411 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:04 am

In post 3357, Chara wrote:oldest trick in the fucking book. i'm stupid.
there's no way Ank was bussing with that ruleset.

we have two more chances to lynch a scum or we lose. that's basically it.

Yeah so i'm kinda suspicious of people who were against flubber yesterday (like you, for instance)

skitter30 · Post Post #3412 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:06 am

In post 3362, tris wrote:Oh my gosh. Why didn't I think about this possibility. This is exactly like that other game.

I mean, i said that this could be a thing like 100 pages ago and you *acknowledged it and interacted with me saying that* so this feels fake

skitter30 · Post Post #3413 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:07 am

In post 214, tris wrote:It reminds me of the game you were in with the mod. Where she caught you fake claiming as vig.

skitter30 · Post Post #3414 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:10 am

In post 3364, Chara wrote:
In post 2942, skitter30 wrote:idk i want this more
VOTE: flubber
skitter repeated this a few times.

i think this is a setup where scum are going to try to distance as much as possible. it's just necessary.
but it's really hard to analyze if the IC claim was a plan from the start of day 2. one could freely bus their buddy knowing meta says to let the claim live.

i think me and skitter (and tris, it sounds like) were players who
should
have been aware of this possibility and just. didn't consider it. because yes, it is exactly like that other game i spectated.

I mean i tried lynching him like four times yesterday and i kept getting flak for it so
It did not occur to me that the game might transition into this setup on n3

skitter30 · Post Post #3415 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:14 am

In post 3366, Chara wrote:then again everyone fell for the stupid IC claim so i wonder if where the wagons went even mattered.

Well, i didnt

skitter30 · Post Post #3416 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:16 am

In post 3383, Ankamius wrote:I'll have more to say when I'm back from work

I'm really not liking skitter though, I'll have to reread her

Yeah so you're going to have to explain why in excruciatingly detail at this point

skitter30 · Post Post #3417 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:23 am

In post 3401, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3394, Ankamius wrote:Flubber was on the tris wagon

It's not impossible that scum dog piled on tris (1 more scum on that wagon) since that would make Brigitte look a lot worse upon a tris flip

Also just noting here that skitter was the only slot that didn't vote for either lynch wagon

Just noting (:
Yes and she also had the weird votepark on Flubber, which she got called out on.

Flubber/Chara/Skitter as the scumteam would not be a complete shock to me at this point. I just don’t believe Chara’s reads progression post-Flubber flip is sincere.

Tris was his #1 push, pre-flip and post-flip she’s practically townlock. Tris could still be town, I’m just not buying Chara’s sudden readchange on her. It’s almost like we are seeing two different Chara’s pre and post-Flubber flip.

Yep, i agree, when i lose by lynching my buddy i try to get him lynched about four times over the course of the dayphase, great plan

(I'm also going to point out that i'm like ... the only person here who has played this setup as scum before so its pretty easy to check how i would play this as scum - and i'm so ridiculously out of my scumrange for this kind of game)

skitter30 · Post Post #3418 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:24 am

VOTE: reck

skitter30 · Post Post #3419 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:24 am

In post 3413, skitter30 wrote:
In post 214, tris wrote:It reminds me of the game you were in with the mod. Where she caught you fake claiming as vig.

Do you spectate a lot of games?

Nimueh · Post Post #3420 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:16 am

In post 3412, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3362, tris wrote:Oh my gosh. Why didn't I think about this possibility. This is exactly like that other game.
I mean, i said that this could be a thing like 100 pages ago and you *acknowledged it and interacted with me saying that* so this feels fake

In post 3413, skitter30 wrote:
In post 214, tris wrote:It reminds me of the game you were in with the mod. Where she caught you fake claiming as vig.

Succinctly: this game is 3:10 nightless for the first two Day phases, after which it transitions into Extradition Mafia. Whenever scum is lynched during the first two Day phases, they must confirm 5 living players to be Town. If no scum is lynched during the first two Day phases, a member of the Mafia will escape immediately following the end of the second Day phase.

The Extradition Mafia game? That’s the game Tris was referring to, yes?

Chara · Post Post #3421 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:16 am

In post 3415, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3366, Chara wrote:then again everyone fell for the stupid IC claim so i wonder if where the wagons went even mattered.
Well, i didnt

yes, you did. you unvoted him and the wagons went back to Xtoxm. disbelieving it didn't matter when his goal was only to survive and he was given that.

skitter30 · Post Post #3422 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78089

skitter30 · Post Post #3423 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 am

^^^^ this one

skitter30 · Post Post #3424 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:19 am

In post 3421, Chara wrote:
In post 3415, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3366, Chara wrote:then again everyone fell for the stupid IC claim so i wonder if where the wagons went even mattered.
Well, i didnt
yes, you did. you unvoted him and the wagons went back to Xtoxm. disbelieving it didn't matter when his goal was only to survive and he was given that.

Eh fair. It didnt really occur to me that the game would turn into extradition mafia overnight, i thought we would just lynch him today when it was proven fake

Ok lets now talk about why you wanted xtoxm over flubber yesterday, vefore the ic claim