Micro 857: Burden of Proficiency Mafia

[Enter]

So now that it's over, for what reasons did you think I was independently scummy? :O

I didn't see you ever really try to sort players

Or rather, I saw effort, not results.

I think you misconstrue results for emotion.
Did you read my other games?

No, I don't think I do.

When I was trying to solve this, I was trying to work through it logically: Who makes sense w/ whom, etc. But in order for me to do that, I had to start somewhere, make assumptions to move forward, etc.

You didn't do any of this. I didn't see you say anything like "I assume RC is town because of this, therefore =>" and then follow through with that thought process very much at all.

[Aubrey]

Could have possibly! Apologies. As I’ve said, my understanding of this game is rather foggy. Everything I gathered was from speed reads and quick notes I took.

Felt like a lot of the game on player side was between lynching Saude or U2.

[Aubrey]

Apologies shoshin if your town and RC scum!

[Auro]

You didn't do any of this. I didn't see you say anything like "I assume RC is town because of this, therefore =>" and then follow through with that thought process very much at all.

Just because I don't detail out the entirety of my thought process doesn't mean it doesn't exist, hahaha.
When Volxen made the wall post you guys liked it - but I brought up many of the points within the wall at different parts of time before that, for example.

[Auro]

Felt like a lot of the game on player side was between lynching Saude or U2.

Didn't you guys think RC and Shoshin were townreading U2 till the end?

[Enter]

The Saude lynch did not help us at all.

Saudade was my strongest town read, so as far as sorting who the scum were, allowing him to get lynched really hurt me significantly. (I say that as if I really had much control over the lynch)

You didn't do any of this. I didn't see you say anything like "I assume RC is town because of this, therefore =>" and then follow through with that thought process very much at all.

Just because I don't detail out the entirety of my thought process doesn't mean it doesn't exist, hahaha.
When Volxen made the wall post you guys liked it - but I brought up many of the points within the wall at different parts of time before that, for example.

Yes but also because you don't post your thought process, I can't read your thought process, hence scum reads.

[Auro]

You didn't do any of this. I didn't see you say anything like "I assume RC is town because of this, therefore =>" and then follow through with that thought process very much at all.

Just because I don't detail out the entirety of my thought process doesn't mean it doesn't exist, hahaha.
When Volxen made the wall post you guys liked it - but I brought up many of the points within the wall at different parts of time before that, for example.

Also, I'll touch upon this later, but I do feel a slight bit that you play on a kinda textbookish level, no offense - it's very easy to manipulate.

[Auro]

Yes but also because you don't post your thought process, I can't read your thought process, hence scum reads.

Ask and you'll get.

[Enter]

You didn't do any of this. I didn't see you say anything like "I assume RC is town because of this, therefore =>" and then follow through with that thought process very much at all.

Just because I don't detail out the entirety of my thought process doesn't mean it doesn't exist, hahaha.
When Volxen made the wall post you guys liked it - but I brought up many of the points within the wall at different parts of time before that, for example.

I didn't like your wall post, actually, I contested it when it was brought up. It didn't help me really, especially since the lynch was pushed particularly quickly afterwards, and single player pushes only help me eliminate partner pairs, and since I already believed you two weren't paired, the case was pretty much useless

[Auro]

You contested it? I don't remember engaging with your slot much, lol.

[Enter]

You didn't do any of this. I didn't see you say anything like "I assume RC is town because of this, therefore =>" and then follow through with that thought process very much at all.

Just because I don't detail out the entirety of my thought process doesn't mean it doesn't exist, hahaha.
When Volxen made the wall post you guys liked it - but I brought up many of the points within the wall at different parts of time before that, for example.

Also, I'll touch upon this later, but I do feel a slight bit that you play on a kinda textbookish level, no offense - it's very easy to manipulate.

That's fair, but to be honest, I had literally nothing I could work with. I can't vote you. I can't control the game in any form or fashion, really, other than making players think that I had reads on them that I didn't (which is something that I did do throughout various points in the game). If you have constructive criticism, I'll take it.

Yes but also because you don't post your thought process, I can't read your thought process, hence scum reads.

Ask and you'll get.

I think I did, but maybe I didn't?

[Auro]

You were asking the others to contest it, as I recall - and Paragons *were* playing to a different win-con.

[Enter]

You contested it? I don't remember engaging with your slot much, lol.

I didn't contest you directly, I brought it up to URAP and others because I didn't believe it and I wanted their thoughts.

[Enter]

You were asking the others to contest it, as I recall - and Paragons *were* playing to a different win-con.

I asked if people really believed your case, and I specifically didn't. Maybe my post about not believing it was in the paragon thread, I don't remember. The thread moved really fast that night.

[Auro]

That's fair, but to be honest, I had literally nothing I could work with. I can't vote you. I can't control the game in any form or fashion, really, other than making players think that I had reads on them that I didn't (which is something that I did do throughout various points in the game). If you have constructive criticism, I'll take it.

Well, I often did notice you scumreading things I'd find NAI, or townreading things I'd definitely find NAI.
You said RC was town for "progressing a town win-con", for example, could you go into that?

[Auro]

You were asking the others to contest it, as I recall - and Paragons *were* playing to a different win-con.

I asked if people really believed your case, and I specifically didn't. Maybe my post about not believing it was in the paragon thread, I don't remember. The thread moved really fast that night.

I would've happily engaged, for the record xD

[Auro]

Can you lock your guess in the main thread?

[Auro]

Oh, also the timing was true. This game was moving extremely fast and I got busy, plus some health issues in the middle, and with Volxen flaking it made it really hard to invest as much as I was able to, to the game.

[Enter]

That's fair, but to be honest, I had literally nothing I could work with. I can't vote you. I can't control the game in any form or fashion, really, other than making players think that I had reads on them that I didn't (which is something that I did do throughout various points in the game). If you have constructive criticism, I'll take it.

Well, I often did notice you scumreading things I'd find NAI, or townreading things I'd definitely find NAI.
You said RC was town for "progressing a town win-con", for example, could you go into that?

Yes. He held the game relatively steady and didn't lynch immediately. I would have townread him for lynching earlier when URAP was pushing him for a lynch, he didn't, which looks like he was dragging out day because he wanted to be sure on the lynch.

You were asking the others to contest it, as I recall - and Paragons *were* playing to a different win-con.

I asked if people really believed your case, and I specifically didn't. Maybe my post about not believing it was in the paragon thread, I don't remember. The thread moved really fast that night.

I would've happily engaged, for the record xD

My bad. Maybe it was your avatar that made me want to talk to someone else.

[Saudade]

You played well Enter.

[Saudade]

Reveal scum please so i can reread and learn

[Auro]

Yes. He held the game relatively steady and didn't lynch immediately. I would have townread him for lynching earlier when URAP was pushing him for a lynch, he didn't, which looks like he was dragging out day because he wanted to be sure on the lynch.

Oh, this for example.
The first observation is that RC was in a position of power, and controlled the lynch - there was no threat of the lynch turning onto him because of the universal townreads and the other 4 slots going at each other's necks.
If he was scum, he's aware that ending the game slower makes him more prone to paranoia paragon guess, therefore won't close it early on a mislynch.

Therefore, this in itself fails to be a towntell.

[Auro]

Micahel Scott is cute too

<3

[Auro]

Saudade, I think your playstyle was fine, actually. I disagree that you played bad.

[Enter]

Yes. He held the game relatively steady and didn't lynch immediately. I would have townread him for lynching earlier when URAP was pushing him for a lynch, he didn't, which looks like he was dragging out day because he wanted to be sure on the lynch.

Oh, this for example.
The first observation is that RC was in a position of power, and controlled the lynch - there was no threat of the lynch turning onto him because of the universal townreads and the other 4 slots going at each other's necks.
If he was scum, he's aware that ending the game slower makes him more prone to paranoia paragon guess,

therefore won't close it early on a mislynch.

Therefore, this in itself fails to be a towntell

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Wait I agreed with you, all the way up until bold

Slower game = more prone to paranoia mislynch => he should end game early to prevent that as scum, but he didn't => town.