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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:10 pm

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In post 1874, Xtoxm wrote:btw who all said the thing about scum having given up is stupid or scum
scum dont give up d1
id still put it >50% scum win this game given all vanilla
yet you're voting me.
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:11 pm

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In post 1872, NerfedBuJ wrote:I mean you didn't answer my question (I'm asking if you would townread you), but sure let's do that.

Rei and Prince and EE why are you townreading Ali?

That's the ones I remember. Maybe Jingle too.

Anyone else why are you townreading Ali?
I'm not. P sure my vote is on Ali right now.
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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:11 pm

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shouldn't be.
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:14 pm

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I'll go Vedith if you wanna go there today.
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:14 pm

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shoshin or bust, shoshin or feed, shoshin or afk, etc, etc.
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:16 pm

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I'm waiting to reread shoshin and I'm p sure you know that.
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:17 pm

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Because I said it earlier
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:17 pm

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i understand.
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:23 pm

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if prince is town, he is the most likely primed
if hes arso we delete an arso
depriving scum of primed targets gives us extra mislynches and is the best strategy in this game
therefore prince is the best lynch mechanically
jingle back me up
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:25 pm

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if you want to play against your win condition and attempt to grudge lynch me then fine. it's been established several times that it's not against the MS rules. just be honest to yourself and others about who you are.
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:14 am

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In post 1883, Xtoxm wrote:if prince is town, he is the most likely primed
if hes arso we delete an arso
depriving scum of primed targets gives us extra mislynches and is the best strategy in this game
therefore prince is the best lynch mechanically
jingle back me up
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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 am

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Mechanically you are literally helping scum.
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:19 am

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So, Shoshin says she focuses trying to be townread as scum.
I guess that explains all this defeatist attitude? :P
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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:32 am

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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:36 am

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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:35 am

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because of the mechanism of the game, lylo-s are weird this game. The asserting "shouldn't be allowed to live till lylo" needs to be taken more seriously.

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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:04 am

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In post 1883, Xtoxm wrote:if prince is town, he is the most likely primed
if hes arso we delete an arso
depriving scum of primed targets gives us extra mislynches and is the best strategy in this game
therefore prince is the best lynch mechanically
jingle back me up
This is an incorrect application.

Lynching two primed players buys an extra mislynch, yes. However, lynching two primed players is only helpful in the case that there is a reasonable fear that those players are mafia. Lynching 2 players who wouldn't otherwise be lynched because they're likely to be primed does get us a mislynch, but it also wastes two lynches.

The thing to consider is that from scums PoV, they should ignite if we're likely to lynch someone they've already primed. Not the other way around.



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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:34 am

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The fact that Jingle isn't voting Shoshin right now is suspect.

VOTE: Shoshin
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:35 am

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More on this when I get back to my computer.
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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 1892, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:The fact that Jingle isn't voting Shoshin right now is suspect.

VOTE: Shoshin
Two problems with that theory. I am voting shoshin. I've had other priorities since BoP ended.
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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:47 am

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In post 1894, Jingle wrote:
In post 1892, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:The fact that Jingle isn't voting Shoshin right now is suspect.

VOTE: Shoshin
Two problems with that theory. I am voting shoshin. I've had other priorities since BoP ended.
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:48 am

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In post 1890, DrDolittle wrote:because of the mechanism of the game, lylo-s are weird this game. The asserting "shouldn't be allowed to live till lylo" needs to be taken more seriously.

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Not really, you just subtract 2 per day from the most recent ignition. Today instead of being 14v2 we're functionally 13v2. That's 5 Days til LYLO.
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:51 am

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But yeah, Shoshin here is very similar to shoshin in BoP, and there are specific posts that I doubt town her makes, particularly while playing in that game.
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:58 am

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In post 1874, Xtoxm wrote:btw who all said the thing about scum having given up is stupid or scum
scum dont give up d1
id still put it >50% scum win this game given all vanilla
Setup is probably significantly townsided, actually. Scum needs 6 mislynches, even without the potential fora doc via misprimes. Their advantage is in the lack of flips, but we have enough day phases to make up for it.
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:20 am

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In post 1897, Jingle wrote:But yeah, Shoshin here is very similar to shoshin in BoP, and there are specific posts that I doubt town her makes, particularly while playing in that game.
Essentially this

I take back saying that she doesn't try to work with me as town, I think that's unfair, but as scum she treats me how I want to be treated and as town she's too busy playing her own game. I'm fully capable of going into more detail on that but I felt that she was the same alignment between these games the entirety of BOP and the 1/8 odds of being scum in this game is unfortunately one of the reasons I wrote her off as a lynch in that one.

I don't plan on making that mistake twice
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