Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.

[Vedith]

Yeah you're at L1 Allo.
Claim or be hammered.

[Vedith]

Ah but am I town or scum?

Probably town.

[pinturicchio]

Ah but am I town or scum?

Why did the chicken vote Allomancer?

[rosterfoster]

To get to the other side

[Vedith]

I think Rui looks very town too.

[Vedith]

Do you wanna get a whole page to yourself?

The timing of this post I don't see why Scum interrupt someone posting spam like this considering it's only drawing attention away from an easy push or suspicion.

Also with eyes, scum don't want to draw over excessive attention regardless if it appears town or not.

[Dr Worm]

And speaking of likeable players, where's doctor worm?

I AM HERE!! I AM READING!! I LIKE YOU TOO PINCHERRIOS!! I INTEND TO HAMMER ALLOWMANGER!!

[pinturicchio]

I had high expectations of my own Dr. Worm's nickname; I was not let down

[Allomancer]

Yeah you're at L1 Allo.
Claim or be hammered.

vanilla townie

[brassherald]

maadneet replaces Clemency effective immediately, VC after dinner

[brassherald]

But a new representative arrived shortly thereafter

Votecount 1.5

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Pinturicchio, Eyes Without A Face, rosterfoster

rosterfoster (4)~

GrandWazoo, Springtrap, Ceejayvinoya, BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

ofrhz

Ceejayvinoya(1)~

RuiRui

Vedith (1)~

maadneet

Not Voting (2)~

‪Dr Worm, Allomancer

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-03-25 06:15:00).

[pinturicchio]

Lol Allo wasn't even close to L-1. His claim is townie in that case, since I expect scum being more self aware and checking how many votes there are on them.

UNVOTE: Allomancer

[Vedith]

Do you really believe that Allo thought he was L1?

[Vedith]

Pintu claiming Scum there I think though.
That's a shame.

[pinturicchio]

I thought he was 'cause you said he was. Why not believe he thought he was? He claimed, after all.

[Vedith]

Well that just shows the state of the game then which is pretty tragic.

I don't believe it though.
If Scum were more aware there would they not fake claim VT for credit knowing that it's not L1?

[Eyes without a face]

Lol Allo wasn't even close to L-1. His claim is townie in that case, since I expect scum being more self aware and checking how many votes there are on them.

UNVOTE: Allomancer

That's a VERY bad logic there.

What other choices did Allo have? Claim Doctor and be killed by the other scum team? Claim Scum outright? Or claim any other PR that doesn't even exist in this setup?? I mean, seriously; what other claim would you expect from ANYONE, including the Doctor themselves??

[pinturicchio]

Lol Allo wasn't even close to L-1. His claim is townie in that case, since I expect scum being more self aware and checking how many votes there are on them.

UNVOTE: Allomancer

That's a VERY bad logic there.

What other choices did Allo have? Claim Doctor and be killed by the other scum team? Claim Scum outright? Or claim any other PR that doesn't even exist in this setup?? I mean, seriously; what other claim would you expect from ANYONE, including the Doctor themselves??

I would've expected a "I'm at L-3, jackass. I'm not claiming". So before you call my logic bad, you can always ask.

[pinturicchio]

Well that just shows the state of the game then which is pretty tragic.

I don't believe it though.
If Scum were more aware there would they not fake claim VT for credit knowing that it's not L1?

As I explained in my previous post, I wouldn't expect a claim at all. I would expect something like "I'm not at L-1" or not say anything at all on that matter. Why claim?

[Vedith]

Yes, I was expecting that too from a town Allo.

[pinturicchio]

Yes, I was expecting that too from a town Allo.

Yeah, could be. So you think he claimed as scum... Why?

[Vedith]

Why not?
As Eyes said, there's nothing else to claim this game.

Look at what Allo has done this game

Self vote joke
Nothing
Nothing
Nothing
Unvoted
Nothing
Claimed

Allo is a player that throws round suspicion. Decides who looks scummy early on and goes with me.
Not here.

[Eyes without a face]

So before you call my logic bad, you can always ask

I'm sorry if you thought that was offensive to you. I assure you I meant not to brush on your feelings. I was just explaining why it wasn't the case from my own PoV. Nothing against you in person, my friend.

[pinturicchio]

Why not?
As Eyes said, there's nothing else to claim this game.

Look at what Allo has done this game

Self vote joke
Nothing
Nothing
Nothing
Unvoted
Nothing
Claimed

Allo is a player that throws round suspicion. Decides who looks scummy early on and goes with me.
Not here.

Remember that I agree with you in all of those things since I was the one who called him out for not scumreading you on early game. I'm asking why he claims VT as scum instead of saying "I'm at L-3 jackass", not claiming VT instead of something else.

What I mean is: what do you think happened: did scum!Allo knew he was at L-3 but decided to claim VT; or did scum!Allo thought he was at L-1 and claimed?

If you think the former is what happened (which is the one I understand you believe), why do you think he claims VT instead of dismising your request?

[pinturicchio]

So before you call my logic bad, you can always ask

I'm sorry if you thought that was offensive to you. I assure you I meant not to brush on your feelings. I was just explaining why it wasn't the case from my own PoV. Nothing against you in person, my friend.

More than offensive, I've seen that this game in particular has some kind of heat that I'm not fond with (I think GrandWazoo calling the chicken scum was a little harsh, for example, iirc). I know it wasn't intended, I just wanted to note that there's a kind of aggressiveness that isn't necesarry. But thanks for apologizing!