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Post Post #3725 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 3723, Elbirn wrote:Hey you're doing that thing
We're playing a game. Theres nothing personal about this.

I see what you're saying about the setup; my issue with it is that I dont see that as being a conclusion I would have drawn, and that makes it hard for me to believe that it's a conclusion you came to. There are games that have flavor where the mod is a N0 kill and that have a vanilla town flipped and never have I gone "oh wow this must be mountainous". So that makes it hard for me to see what you're saying as being so obvious. Yaknow?
So, you think I’m scum because I came to fypov a different logical conclusion that you did and in some alternate universe, that somehow constitutes a “scumslip”.

Answer carefully, you may want the frame this post-game.
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Post Post #3726 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:32 pm

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In post 3723, Elbirn wrote:Hey you're doing that thing
We're playing a game. Theres nothing personal about this.

I see what you're saying about the setup; my issue with it is that I dont see that as being a conclusion I would have drawn, and that makes it hard for me to believe that it's a conclusion you came to. There are games that have flavor where the mod is a N0 kill and that have a vanilla town flipped and never have I gone "oh wow this must be mountainous". So that makes it hard for me to see what you're saying as being so obvious. Yaknow?
Why is it hard? Not to anyone who gives it more than five minutes thought. I’m sorry, I’d be more generous and say 15 but this whacked theory just doesn’t warrant it. So, you’re just going to have to come up with a way better reason to mislynch me, if that’s what you truly want.
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Post Post #3727 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 3668, tris wrote:What if her partner is elbirn?
Flubber is a chick?
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Post Post #3728 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:46 pm

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In post 3727, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3668, tris wrote:What if her partner is elbirn?
Flubber is a chick?
Ankamius was talking about skitter then.
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Post Post #3729 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:49 pm

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This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.
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Post Post #3730 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:08 pm

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In post 3729, tris wrote:This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.
Sorry but I’m not scum here and I will not be mislynched, without trying to defend myself. I’m sorry if I made too many posts about that. :/

I just go eat my dinner and I come back to that. It kind of threw me for a loop because I don’t even understand how making obvious logical inferences from the setup spec pg 1, makes me scum here.
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Post Post #3731 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:12 am

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In post 3613, Ankamius wrote:
In post 740, Flubbernugget wrote:As much as both of his main pushes skeeve me out reck looks better after his reads list than before. The fake anger thing I pointed out stemmed from the fact that I really didn't see anything that looked like provocation from me or Enter to actually irritate him in any reasonable way. It made his posting seem like he was more playing to a character than being genuinely crass. That was why I decided to unvote for him when the wagon was forming. I wanted as few irritants to reck at the time to see what he would and wouldn't get pissy about. That ended up being moot by the LAL push anyway.

As previously mentioned, I'm liking urap for scum. His pushes off the nmsa wagon were basically just a few new votes and wagon solicitations. And when nothing happened, they just tried the same thing with a new head. It's not really a productive way to try and form reads and doesn't come off as actually trying to solve the game.

Ank is looking pretty scummy too.
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So I just had a thonk, and I see only two general possibilities. Scumteam is flubber/reck/(Elbirn or an inactive), or it's flubber/Ank/irrelevant cause the IC claim was planned and Ank really is the mastermind we haven't been looking for and this post was distancing to help conftown Ank and town has no chance. Obviously the second is a long shot, but it's possible. Discuss.
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Post Post #3732 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:22 am

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In post 3659, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3655, Nimueh wrote:3150 was made at 12:50 pm.
So NMSA actually voted for Xtoxm twice but since the second vote was post-hammerUNVOTE: , it wouldn’t get counted, approximately 7 hours before Xtoxm self-hammered.

So, Reck can probably only be scum with Elbirn and Skitter probably only with NMSA, so gun to head, I think scum is Flubber/NMSA/Skitter.

I think NMSA “hammered” because he knew his vote wouldn’t be counted post-hammer and that no one would notice but thankfully Tris caught that.

So rn, I want to vote for one of them I think.

UNVOTE:
At that point I was just careless and it didn't occur to me that I might have accidentally hammered, much less that the hammer had already happened.
VOTE: NMSA
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Post Post #3733 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:24 am

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In post 3662, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3643, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2731, Nimueh wrote:
In post 2726, Ankamius wrote:idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Oh good Nim scum slipped. We can just vote this and win yes?
Hmmm along with the weirdly fast flip on me, my sr on Nim might be coming back... would flubber/reck/nim make sense?
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Post Post #3734 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:28 am

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In post 3681, Ankamius wrote:You know

Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game

Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.
add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh
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Post Post #3735 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:24 am

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In post 3693, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3643, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2731, Nimueh wrote:
In post 2726, Ankamius wrote:idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.

And same as my own as well.
What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs
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Post Post #3736 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:29 am

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In post 3713, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3356, northsidegal wrote:There are 3 Mafia and 10 Vanilla Townies.
yes, but the trick is that we weren't told that was the setup till here, which is decidedly not on pg1
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Post Post #3737 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:30 am

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In post 3720, skitter30 wrote:No, it doesnt spell out mountainous. Spelling it out would have been posting in the op: 'this game is 10:3 mountainous

It means it's flavor and if it was meant to describe the setup it would have been explictly stated somewhere in the op.

You're also
changing your story
wrt where you got the notion of 'mountainous' from - it was originally from your role pm and brigitte's flip

Pedit ffs i didnt say i was scumreafing you for this
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LaL, Nim is scum
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Post Post #3738 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:34 am

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In post 3725, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3723, Elbirn wrote:Hey you're doing that thing
We're playing a game. Theres nothing personal about this.

I see what you're saying about the setup; my issue with it is that I dont see that as being a conclusion I would have drawn, and that makes it hard for me to believe that it's a conclusion you came to. There are games that have flavor where the mod is a N0 kill and that have a vanilla town flipped and never have I gone "oh wow this must be mountainous". So that makes it hard for me to see what you're saying as being so obvious. Yaknow?
So, you think I’m scum because I came to fypov a different logical conclusion that you did and in some alternate universe, that somehow constitutes a “scumslip”.

Answer carefully, you may want the frame this post-game.
He'll only have to if he's town. There's only one way for Nim to know for certain someone is town.
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Post Post #3739 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:35 am

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In post 3730, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3729, tris wrote:This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.
Sorry but I’m not scum here and I will not be mislynched, without trying to defend myself. I’m sorry if I made too many posts about that. :/

I just go eat my dinner and I come back to that. It kind of threw me for a loop because I don’t even understand how making obvious logical inferences from the setup spec pg 1, makes me scum here.
not obvious, see the first mate idea I had, it would still have been valid after the brig flip
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Post Post #3740 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:46 am

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In post 3733, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3662, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3643, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2731, Nimueh wrote:
In post 2726, Ankamius wrote:idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Oh good Nim scum slipped. We can just vote this and win yes?
Hmmm along with the weirdly fast flip on me, my sr on Nim might be coming back... would flubber/reck/nim make sense?
No.
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Post Post #3741 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:49 am

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In post 3734, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3681, Ankamius wrote:You know

Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game

Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.
add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh
You voted Xtoxm 7 hours before he self-hammered approximately, then you fake hammered him. I changed my vote because I incorrectly thought you stayed on Flubber until that time and it cleared you.

And why is Creature scum, other than sheer bs opportunism on your part? :igmeou:
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Post Post #3742 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:51 am

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In post 3735, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3693, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3643, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2731, Nimueh wrote:
In post 2726, Ankamius wrote:idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.

And same as my own as well.
What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs
Did you read that post? Did you see any “first mate” mentioned anywhere? No, all you saw was nsg Captain and crewmates. Nice WIFOM though.
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Post Post #3743 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 3737, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3720, skitter30 wrote:No, it doesnt spell out mountainous. Spelling it out would have been posting in the op: 'this game is 10:3 mountainous

It means it's flavor and if it was meant to describe the setup it would have been explictly stated somewhere in the op.

You're also
changing your story
wrt where you got the notion of 'mountainous' from - it was originally from your role pm and brigitte's flip

Pedit ffs i didnt say i was scumreafing you for this
emphasis mine

LaL, NMSA is scum
FIFY and you’re weocome. :]
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Post Post #3744 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:58 am

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In post 3738, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3725, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3723, Elbirn wrote:Hey you're doing that thing
We're playing a game. Theres nothing personal about this.

I see what you're saying about the setup; my issue with it is that I dont see that as being a conclusion I would have drawn, and that makes it hard for me to believe that it's a conclusion you came to. There are games that have flavor where the mod is a N0 kill and that have a vanilla town flipped and never have I gone "oh wow this must be mountainous". So that makes it hard for me to see what you're saying as being so obvious. Yaknow?
So, you think I’m scum because I came to fypov a different logical conclusion that you did and in some alternate universe, that somehow constitutes a “scumslip”.

Answer carefully, you may want the frame this post-game.
He'll only have to if he's town. There's only one way for Nim to know for certain someone is town.
I know I’m town. I trust my obvtown Creature read and I definitely agree with Chara that Ank would never bus here. I also have a hardtown read on Enter, so that translates to Succinct also being town.. I already did a readslist numerous times and your vote on me is a straight up OMGUS which I find really ironic, coming from you.

Still trying to figure out your partner though but if everyone is pushing Reck, including players lowest on my list, I have to seriously wonder if scum is pushing him too.
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Post Post #3745 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:00 am

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In post 3739, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3730, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3729, tris wrote:This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.
Sorry but I’m not scum here and I will not be mislynched, without trying to defend myself. I’m sorry if I made too many posts about that. :/

I just go eat my dinner and I come back to that. It kind of threw me for a loop because I don’t even understand how making obvious logical inferences from the setup spec pg 1, makes me scum here.
not obvious, see the first mate idea I had, it would still have been valid after the brig flip
Brigitte flipped crewman, like my role pm, like in the setup spec on the fiirst page of this game, so what’s your point exactly?
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Post Post #3746 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:06 am

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NMSA’s vote on me and sr feel totally fake. If someone posted that nim employed commas in a scum-indicative way, I think he’d be all over that too.
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Post Post #3747 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:04 am

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In post 3732, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3659, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3655, Nimueh wrote:3150 was made at 12:50 pm.
So NMSA actually voted for Xtoxm twice but since the second vote was post-hammerUNVOTE: , it wouldn’t get counted, approximately 7 hours before Xtoxm self-hammered.

So, Reck can probably only be scum with Elbirn and Skitter probably only with NMSA, so gun to head, I think scum is Flubber/NMSA/Skitter.

I think NMSA “hammered” because he knew his vote wouldn’t be counted post-hammer and that no one would notice but thankfully Tris caught that.

So rn, I want to vote for one of them I think.

UNVOTE:
At that point I was just careless and it didn't occur to me that I might have accidentally hammered, much less that the hammer had already happened.

VOTE: NMSA
Meant for that stuff to go outside the quote, my bad.
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Post Post #3748 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:07 am

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In post 3740, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3733, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3662, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3643, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2731, Nimueh wrote:
In post 2726, Ankamius wrote:idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Oh good Nim scum slipped. We can just vote this and win yes?
Hmmm along with the weirdly fast flip on me, my sr on Nim might be coming back... would flubber/reck/nim make sense?
No.
Can you explain what you think about reck at least?
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Post Post #3749 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:09 am

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In post 3741, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3734, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 3681, Ankamius wrote:You know

Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game

Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.
add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh
You voted Xtoxm 7 hours before he self-hammered approximately, then you fake hammered him. I changed my vote because I incorrectly thought you stayed on Flubber until that time and it cleared you.

And why is Creature scum, other than sheer bs opportunism on your part? :igmeou:
because I can't read Creature at all from meta obviously, and I have a slight gut scumread from tone+activity
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