Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]

[Auro]

Auro, you need to convince this fool that I'm town or I can't play this game.

I think that insult is uncalled for, Shoshin.
I will - but let's see who else wants you out of this game first?

[Shoshin]

I can answer that for you. DT.

[Auro]

Alonzo, Shoshin would never nominate herself here. The two of us just lost a scumgame and the reasons for her lack of motivation should be apparent - not just for that loss but probably for more reasons I shouldn't talk about - which you can affirm if you bother to check.

Fighting what would rightfully be anticipated as an uphill battle today by nominating herself is the last thing scum!Shoshin would do.

Additionally, Shoshin is a rather straightforward player and doesn't take unnecessary risks, which should support that.

[Auro]

I can answer that for you. DT.

DT is expected.

[Auro]

Alonzo, Shoshin would never nominate herself here. The two of us just lost a scumgame and the reasons for her lack of motivation should be apparent - not just for that loss but probably for more reasons I shouldn't talk about - which you can affirm if you bother to check.

Fighting what would rightfully be anticipated as an uphill battle today by nominating herself is the last thing scum!Shoshin would do.

Additionally, Shoshin is a rather straightforward player and doesn't take unnecessary risks, which should support that.

If Shoshin was on the right track and just happened to make the wrong lynch (Fusco), scum are in a prime position to take a risk and nominate themselves with her, getting rid of her while also deriving some towncred for the nomination. Nominating three towniest slots would screw them over later.

[Alonzo]

How would reading a scum PT where shosh clearly demonstrates her knowledge of being able to play around town! RC make me feel better about her alignment here?

@auro

[Auro]

Scum!Her being able to play around town!RC is one thing, but how would you distinguish from how town!her would play around town!RC?

[Vedith]

I consider you to have been ringleader on the last two lynches

This is town

[Alonzo]

Are you actually from Surrey UK vedith?

[Vedith]

Yeah \o/ Do you know it then?

[Alonzo]

I'm from Hampshire (you Northern monkey!)

[Vedith]

So I only think Shoshin should be the lynch at L1 and be given a chance to stop lynching town and follow real lynches.
I'm not confident in Scum there but defending Scum reading when I know this is not town Scum reading makes me doubt Shoshin.

Also considering Shoshin is supposed to be really good at lynching Scum as town, irrel town, fusc town, me town. These reads don't match up.

[Shoshin]

Irrel was a townread, Vedith.

Why are you ignoring the nature of nominations, Vedith?

Again, please explain your scumread on SR.

[Vedith]

I'm from Hampshire (you Northern monkey!)

Well hello there neibour \o/
I just enjoy a good pie and gravy that little much more.

[Alonzo]

Scum!Her being able to play around town!RC is one thing, but how would you distinguish from how town!her would play around town!RC?

Iv tried to keep an open mind that shosh could be town here, but their entire iso weirds me out, as does content, as does timing..

I'm stopping short of accusing you both of being scum together, however I feel like the closest shosh has come to pushing scum here was with their rvs vote..

[Vedith]

Irrel was a townread, Vedith.

Why are you ignoring the nature of nominations, Vedith?

Again, please explain your scumread on SR.

Still lynched over Volxen which was terrible. If you're town the Volxen is most likely Scum.
It's just me knowing who Scum is. We have no reason to doubt any of my reads while with you, it's proven you're either having bad game or a different motive

[Shoshin]

How do you know SR is scum?

[Auro]

Iv tried to keep an open mind that shosh could be town here, but their entire iso weirds me out, as does content, as does timing..

I'm stopping short of accusing you both of being scum together

I'll give it a re-read since I've just finished a scumgame alongwith her (BoP mafia), but I feel like the reason I've stated for why she'd never nominate herself as scum is very strong. Also, her D2 lynchpool was {DoubtingThomas, Fuscosco, Chennisden, Vedith} if I remember right and we have only one flip out of the four.

[Vedith]

How do you know SR is scum?

Because I'm not using blacked out glasses to read his posts?

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: shoshin

[Vedith]

Scum reading really is coasting of Shoshin town reading him and making very little impact as Scum while the louder players say nay nay nay.
I really want to think of you as town here Shoshin but you need to work with me and stop just throwing around bad reads.

[Auro]

How do you know SR is scum?

Because I'm not using blacked out glasses to read his posts?

I actually share the sentiment on Scum Reading, *he* feels more like he's coasting, and as I've mentioned before: repeated use of specific phrases to exaggerate positions (like "solid case", "solid defence") pings me. The lurking is a concern, too.

I'm interested in how Shoshin arrived at locktown on the slot.

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Vedith

Auro, please don't help Vedith out in explaining his thoughts.

[DoubtingThomas]

I have interview tomorrow. Today will be spent preparing and traveling for tomorrows interview tomorrow night, once interview is done i can dive into this game again

Nonetheless shoshin is always the lynch today in all but one in 193948392002 possible situations i saw in the future

[Shoshin]

It's possible that SR's scum but I'm not going to get there is nobody gives strong reasons for the read. "Coasting" isn't sufficient when that's half the game.