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I'd say vedith has passed the BoD line of not participating enough.
Vedith/ali anyone?
@DrD - I don't know enough about clem to respond, my point was if he did it once as scum, he's capable of doing it again so shouldn't be something you townread him for.
VOTE: VedithMy main is BuJaber.- NerfedBuJ
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My current plan of action is lynching all the useless slots / replacements (except for dann).
If we find scum among them, we lynch alisae.
If we don't find scum among them, we lynch Jingle.
Basic math says we don't have enough mislynches to actually do that, so I'll adjust along the way.
Right now vedith has highest percent of flipping scum.My main is BuJaber.- Prince of Renais
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To be fair this is in part because I haven't played with jingle enough to know if this is his normal playstyle or what. I know he's very interested in mechanical aspects of the game, but I don't know if that means I can trust his claim that he doesn't effort in games that provide him with little mechanical/flavor interest to motivate him to effort.
I wish I knew how to explain that better but I hope you understand.My main is BuJaber.- NerfedBuJ
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The context for this is that we played in overkill and I put him in top 3 town contributors for that game, which isn't the case here. And we talked about this earlier this game.In post 2731, NerfedBuJ wrote:To be fair this is in part because I haven't played with jingle enough to know if this is his normal playstyle or what. I know he's very interested in mechanical aspects of the game, but I don't know if that means I can trust his claim that he doesn't effort in games that provide him with little mechanical/flavor interest to motivate him to effort.
I wish I knew how to explain that better but I hope you understand.My main is BuJaber.- northsidegal
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I'm a little worried about this right now?In post 2599, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:boredom
people were happy w/ game state
i don't like when people are happy w/ game state
i was trying to figure out who wouldn't be happy if I said "no, this game state is bad"
nobody wanted to lynch vedith
Especially with no NK, I'm trying to figure out what scum are doing to try and win the game.
One thing to keep in mind potentially is that scum will avoid pushing doused players at all costs because it basically costs them a night kill. There are fairly good odds Prince is already doused so the only way for scum to play around him will be not to push for his mislynch, but to discredit/scumread him while pushing elsewhere. I'd guess either Enter or myself are also doused. I'd just watch how people play around EE and Prince specifically today because I think they're the most likely doused targets, and playing with obv town players you can't make a real push for even if circumstances change probably stands out. It's why I'm not really a fan of Ank's half-hearted push on Enter, but I might just be conf-biasing on that.- Dannflor
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you cannot be pushed as a lynchIn post 2735, Prince of Renais wrote:i don't think I'll ever be motivated in this game as long as I'm afraid of being scumread if I lead an incorrect lynch.
people scum reading you/discrediting your reads will have to out themselves as scum- Extrapolated Eagle
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just relax dudeIn post 2735, Prince of Renais wrote:i don't think I'll ever be motivated in this game as long as I'm afraid of being scumread if I lead an incorrect lynch.
enjoy mafia pls
if someone scumreads you i'll lynch them don't worry about it"@EE
Aside from that entire post being annoying as fuck, your scumread on me makes no sense." -Elyse (scum)- Dannflor
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Prince lead a wagon on grapes, mafia, day one. He's an extremely strong player and obvious town this game so most players agreed he'd likely die last night. He didn't.In post 2621, Liger_Zero wrote:How and why would it make sense to frame someone as scum by no killing exactly? Not understanding the flow of logic or how no death would be a frame attempt given the setup.
A simple (but flawed) explanation is that Prince is scum because ~~~paranoia~~~
you're going to need very good reasons to push Prince right now and I don't believe those exist until proven otherwise
discrediting him or scum reading him based on the mere fact he's still alive will be a scum tactic imo- Dannflor
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It sort of is to me? Where did you pull that from?In post 2636, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Ank's town btw but that's probably not news- Dannflor
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In post 2591, Ankamius wrote:jingle what was your thought process when you initially replaced into the game?
Okay Ank I'll be completely transparent my issue with you *could* just be style differences, so hopefully you can help me understand if I'm wrongIn post 2641, Ankamius wrote:how you approached the game, Jingle
I'm not following your thought processes on posts like the above, I'm not seeing the end of your arc, the conclusions you're drawing from asking such questions. Like, I'm reading it like empty questioning/catching up because I'm not really seeing the solve behind your questioning.
How did you expect knowing Jingle's thought process when he replaced in would help you sort him? Is there a specific thing you're looking for or is it a general feeler type reaction test just to get a base level read on him?- Dannflor
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says the car who has done nothingIn post 2645, mcqueen wrote:So Xtoxm’s still done next to nothing
sorry, I know you were sick but
like pressure xtoxm or something if you think that? make him do something?- Dannflor
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town reading because "shitton of posts" is lazyIn post 2688, MaxwellPuckett wrote:VOTE: Rei
So far its a vote on me (town) and wanting to vote someone I think is town and also a sort of lame jab abt me having a gutread on Ank in spite a not reading when Ank had a shitton of posts right when I came in
what about the posts are town to you
this is just avoiding explaining yourself
also terrible vote- Dannflor
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Well, you're not a town read I can tell you that much.
Given how yesterday went i'm not in any position to blindly follow anyone here outside of Shoshins reads.
I don't think Scum were pushing Shoshin as Scum Though and just sitting back instead.
So if you want me to vote else where then explain why I should. Otherwise just keep voting me.I claim scum \o/- Dannflor
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What changed?In post 2746, Vedith wrote:Well, you're not a town read I can tell you that much.
You also just completely dodged my question
Who are you town reading right now?-
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I've played with Jingle town and Jingle scum several times in the past and he's always had a drastically different tone than when he's played this game. The way I've been trying to read him is by reading what he decides to push and why since that's how I was able to correctly realize I shouldn't be townreading him in police academy, but I need to be sure that I can read him along that same metric when he is playing much more loosely than in any other game I've seen him in.
It's not me trying to get a read on him, it's me making sure I can in the first place.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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