Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Nimueh]

Spoiler:

Succinct: who do you think Tohru is?

I thought RC.

Oh cool I'm the counterwagon

Nice try to rewrite history, but

I

am the counterwagon to

you

, not vice-versa:

Votecount 3.1

NotMySpamAccount (2):

Succinct 3373, Chara 3489

Nimueh (2):

Elbirn 3669, NotMySpamAccount 3834

Elbirn (2):

Nimueh 3755, tris 3789

Succinct (1):

Tohru 3872

screw it, this game is toxic, I don't even care anymore, VOTE: succinct to get out of this game

This is literally a scumclaim.

Who gets out of the game on a town lynch?

i'd bet the game on tohru *not* being rc
the second bit is semantics and not actually meaningful
and yeah

i noticed that for nmsa but it made me think that he was partnered with you and that he just didn't give a fuck and was voting you anyways to make the game end

[/quote]

I really really hate this post - the bolded.

I don’t believe that neither you or NMSA aren’t aware of the consequences for blatantly game throwing.[/quote]

[skitter30]

Why do i again feel like it'll be impossible to get 6 votes on succinct for no discernable reason?

@chara @tris why exactly are neither of u voting succinct rn?

idk, the resistance to it feels kinda weird. also happy scumday!

tyty
yes, the wagon being stalled at l-2 for no discernable reason (there just aren't votes for a succinct lynch rn) in this setup is extremely sketchy

remember how we just did this with flubber? it's the exact same thing

[NotMySpamAccount]

Succinct: who do you think Tohru is?

I thought RC.

Oh cool I'm the counterwagon

Nice try to rewrite history, but

I

am the counterwagon to

you

, not vice-versa:

Votecount 3.1

NotMySpamAccount (2):

Succinct 3373, Chara 3489

Nimueh (2):

Elbirn 3669, NotMySpamAccount 3834

Elbirn (2):

Nimueh 3755, tris 3789

Succinct (1):

Tohru 3872

screw it, this game is toxic, I don't even care anymore, VOTE: succinct to get out of this game

This is literally a scumclaim.

Who gets out of the game on a town lynch?

i'd bet the game on tohru *not* being rc
the second bit is semantics and not actually meaningful
and yeah

i noticed that for nmsa but it made me think that he was partnered with you and that he just didn't give a fuck and was voting you anyways to make the game end

I really really hate this post - the bolded.

I don’t believe that neither you or NMSA aren’t aware of the consequences for blatantly game throwing.

can you be banned for game throwing or something? this makes it sound that way.

[NotMySpamAccount]

I think we have quite a lot to find Succinct's partner if she's scum, otherwise, if she's town I won't know exactly where to go.

But her partner wouldn’t let her languish at L-2 like that and never do anything to stop it - not in this setup anyway. And no one tried to stop it, which is why I would be legit shocked if she flips scum.

I think scum is NMSA/Skitter.

NMSA for that Flubberesque post and him wanting to end the game, even “if scum wins” and Skitter for suggesting that there is any world that scum!NMSA risks a ban on here, for blatantly game throwing.

oh I see

[Nimueh]

So my point is, that both wagons were at L-2, Succinct’s even got to L-1, albeit briefly, so my point is, why didn’t scum hammer either?

you realize you're arguing that succinct is scum, right?

No, how do you figure that? I’m obviously arguing that Elbirn’s reasoning about that is flawed.

Interesting, you’re now reading my posts.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Yeah if I wanted to be banned then skitter's thing makes sense, but I don't. I'm mad, but I'm not stupid. I would put someone else through this game by replacing out rather than get banned.

[skitter30]

to clarify, it was something that drifted through my mind so i mentioned it
i'm not, and haven't been, actually accusing you of throwing

[Nimueh]

Succinct: who do you think Tohru is?

I thought RC.

Oh cool I'm the counterwagon

Nice try to rewrite history, but

I

am the counterwagon to

you

, not vice-versa:

Votecount 3.1

NotMySpamAccount (2):

Succinct 3373, Chara 3489

Nimueh (2):

Elbirn 3669, NotMySpamAccount 3834

Elbirn (2):

Nimueh 3755, tris 3789

Succinct (1):

Tohru 3872

screw it, this game is toxic, I don't even care anymore, VOTE: succinct to get out of this game

This is literally a scumclaim.

Who gets out of the game on a town lynch?

i'd bet the game on tohru *not* being rc
the second bit is semantics and not actually meaningful
and yeah

i noticed that for nmsa but it made me think that he was partnered with you and that he just didn't give a fuck and was voting you anyways to make the game end

I really really hate this post - the bolded.

I don’t believe that neither you or NMSA aren’t aware of the consequences for blatantly game throwing.

can you be banned for game throwing or something? this makes it sound that way.

Yes, INTENTIONAL game throwing is against the rules. If you and Succinct really are SvS and you help her get lynched by voting her and scum loses with her lynch, then that’s in violation of site rules. DW, no one but Skitter seriously “believes” this anyway, assuming that there’s any world that town!her actually believes you’d seriously do this.

In a game with different mechanics, that would obviously not be the case.

[Nimueh]

to clarify, it was something that drifted through my mind so i mentioned it
i'm not, and haven't been, actually accusing you of throwing

How do you figure that? If he is voting his partner on a lead wagon in this setup, how are you not accusing him of game throwing?

[NotMySpamAccount]

there's a retional case for succinct as scum, but nim's disbelief that I could possibly get frustrateed is the only reason anyone is arguing I'm scum. we can't both be, since I haven't unvoted, so which of us is mroe likely?

[Elbirn]

So why didn’t they then? At times, both wagons were at L-2.

Girl I know you didnt just answer my question by asking me my own question

Your theory is that both scum would put a town wagon at L-1 and hammer, right?

So my point is, that both wagons were at L-2, Succinct’s even got to L-1, albeit briefly, so my point is, why didn’t scum hammer either? I’m asking this, because I think your theory is wrong because of the remaining scum, who can’t escape until the following night.

But that's what I've been saying, or trying to say, or whatever.

Succinct sat at L-1 and was not hammered. This necessarily means one of the following is true:

1. Both scum are already voting her
2. Scum are incompetent/were not online to hammer
3. She's scum

I am currently at L-2 and have not been hammered. This means one of the following is true:

1. One or both scum are already voting me
2. Scum are incompetent/cant setup a scenario where quick lynching me is possible

I think the answer is 3, 1.

[NotMySpamAccount]

So why didn’t they then? At times, both wagons were at L-2.

Girl I know you didnt just answer my question by asking me my own question

Your theory is that both scum would put a town wagon at L-1 and hammer, right?

So my point is, that both wagons were at L-2, Succinct’s even got to L-1, albeit briefly, so my point is, why didn’t scum hammer either? I’m asking this, because I think your theory is wrong because of the remaining scum, who can’t escape until the following night.

But that's what I've been saying, or trying to say, or whatever.

Succinct sat at L-1 and was not hammered. This necessarily means one of the following is true:

1. Both scum are already voting her
2. Scum are incompetent/were not online to hammer
3. She's scum

I am currently at L-2 and have not been hammered. This means one of the following is true:

1. One or both scum are already voting me
2. Scum are incompetent/cant setup a scenario where quick lynching me is possible

I think the answer is 3, 1.

let's assume scum aren't incompetent. is there a way to know when someone was online? we can locktown a few people that way.

[Elbirn]

let's assume scum aren't incompetent. is there a way to know when someone was online? we can locktown a few people that way.

I do like to assume scum are intelligent.

But I dont think this line of thinking is very fruitful. We could determine that someone was online if they made posts around that time, but that's not a guarantee they were lurking/viewing the thread, and just because someone wasnt verifiably online doesnt mean they werent online, and even if they werent online that doesnt make them scum

And it just feels like outside influences on the game and I dont find it very sporting

[tris]

tris what exactly is your read on succinct?

I don't have a very clear read on Succinct. I think Enter was sort of town, maybe. I think Succinct is being limited by their self imposed posting style. So, I think some of the reasons for them being scum are faulty. But, I could still see them as being scum. Idk. The main reason I'm not voting for Succinct is that I can only see Reck as being their partner, and I have a really hard time seeing that. And, if we lynch here and it's wrong, there's more options to sort through, whereas if whatever counterwagon is a mislynch and Reck or Succinct escape, then we can lynch the other.

I've decided that Chara is definitely not scum.

Reasoning?

Shes still part of my PoE so sorting her would be swell

A lot of her thinking lately has fit with how I'm thinking and seems natural, and I think she would have stayed on Succinct if she were scum.

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Alright, VOTE: NMSA I kind of thinking Elbirn might be town.

I don't think the skitter quote nimueh has been quoting is scummy though.

[skitter30]

i feel like i'm banging my head against a wall trying to get people to vote succinct and i don't get why people aren't willing to do so given, again, that nobody's really articulating a strong townread on her

pedit i haven't read that yet really but auifhaowfja why are there more cw's

[northsidegal]

Votecount 3.5

Succinct (4):

Tohru 3872, skitter30 4015, Elbirn 4016, NotMySpamAccount 4405

Elbirn (3):

Succinct 4017, xRECKONERx 4053, Chara 4267

NotMySpamAccount (3):

Nimueh 4370, Creature 4371, tris 4513

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it’s 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-31 02:45:59).

[skitter30]

I think Succinct is being limited by their self imposed posting style. So, I think some of the reasons for them being scum are faulty. But, I could still see them as being scum. Idk. The main reason I'm not voting for Succinct is that I can only see Reck as being their partner, and I have a really hard time seeing that. And, if we lynch here and it's wrong, there's more options to sort through, whereas if whatever counterwagon is a mislynch and Reck or Succinct escape, then we can lynch the other.

a) the gamestate says succinct is scum, it really has nothing to do with her posting style

b) the partner doesn't matter, we really only need to find one scum
(and honestly anyone on the cw is a possible partner here; only people i'm ruling out are the people sitting on the succinct wagon)

c) if you want to sort in the counterwagons why are you voting nmsa and starting a new one afioajdiaiofa

[xRECKONERx]

Okay.

VOTE: Succinct

Let's see what happens.

[skitter30]

finally, thank you

[tris]

I'm ruling out Nimueh and Creature, and Chara can't be because of being on the wagon before.

What about about the gamestate indicates Succinct scum?

[tris]

Um, now I really don't think Succinct is scum.

[xRECKONERx]

tris is town.

[skitter30]

yay tris isn't scum with succinct

[skitter30]

tris is town.

^^^^^^

[xRECKONERx]

Need Chara, Creature, and Nim to check in and if nobody hammers, we probably have scum in Succinct or both scum on the wagon.