Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[skitter30]

like this was very much his scumgame
i didnt push him at all because he's been sandbagging his town to to look the same as his scumgame
so may strategy with him is to wait and see if he towns up later
i did push back on the actual trs on him and im glad i did
my other reads pretty much all sucked LOL

Yeah, i also didnt really think he was out of his scumrange at any point

[skitter30]

that quote about me is literally from a sentence where i said that i'm good at looking townie as scum so that's also a bad reason to townread me
i also have no idea how well you know my playstyle but like if you don't know me trusting my word on that also seems like a bad idea

I have experience with you.

You're good at obvtowning as town.
You're good at "obvtowning" as scum, but this isn't that; it's the former, not latter.

yeah i'm *pretty* sure i know who you are
so i guess the thread is iminently going to get locked probably so i'd like to pick this up tomorrow and/or daystart or whatever

I also should have picked up on this

[skitter30]

(Not necesaarily who the main was, but the fact thaf she handed a townread to me too easily again imo)

[xRECKONERx]

So uh

Meta is horrible without a personality read to back it up

you can stop there

[Tohru]

Morning.

This outcome is acceptable. Could have ended way earlier, but I'm glad my efforts were successful.

Mafia is a team game, everyone deserves the credit: Tohru, skitter30, Elbirn, NotMySpamAccount, xRECKONERx, Chara <------ These are your heroes, not just me. All of them contributed to the victory. I literally could not have done it without them.

The scumteam also played formidably. Creature in particular played a terrific job in subverting his scum meta. Conventional wisdom suggests that he'd make a minimum amount of posts with minimum game-relevant content, but in this game he made an abnormally large amount of clever posts that are out of what is thought to be his usual scumrange. Society looks kindly upon and rewards people who show signs of growth and improvement.

Succinct as a mastermind also did well. It's immediately obvious to me who the main is, so I'm pretty puzzled why anybody has doubt over who they are, but then again, what's obvious to me may not necessarily be obvious to others.

I'm going to read the private topics now.

[Tohru]

Regarding the setup: It is scumsided. The setup is unique in the fact that it has an extremely strong scum "scaling factor", which means to say that the higher the skill level of the scum team collectively, the scum win rate would increase exponentially. It's a swingy, "hit or miss" sort of game.

As a reminder, if Elbirn was lynched today, the scum would have definitely won without a doubt. Do also be reminded that there was minimal resistance from the scumteam themselves... as far as I am concerned, scum Succinct and Creature literally just laid down on the floor and died (without crossing the line as to gamethrowing), and there was still a huge struggle to attain a successful lynch. Imagine if Succinct did fight back, imagine RadiantCowbells in that slot fighting back. It would then be very unlikely that we would lynch him and win even if I did manage to peg RadiantCowbells in a similar situation.

It's a clever and unique setup. I enjoyed it very much. The sad part is that a key point of the setup relied on the element of hiding information from town. The element of surprise. So, it can only be used once, unless deliberate efforts were made to prevent the town from knowing a second time.

Thank you for hosting, northsidegal.

Thank you town on the wagon for the support.

Thank you scum for the respectable game.

[Creature]

lol calling this setup scumsided

[Ankamius]

Thank you for replacing in Tohru

[Tohru]

lol calling this setup scumsided

It's scumsided. That's a fact.

I'm townsided. That helped.

[Tohru]

lol calling this setup scumsided

You played really well. It's really a pleasure to see. People who review their mistakes and improve, will be rewarded. People who are closed-minded, shut their ears to good advice, and never improve, well, we saw what happened.

Thank you for replacing in Tohru

Thank you for playing a strong game and making my slot obvious town prior beforehand. It was a remarkable effort.

[Ankamius]

I didn't catch succinct or enter, the two people I really should be able to catch in this playerlist :S

[Creature]

Four mislynches in a row is still hard to achieve, even if you somehow manage to save your scummy member long enough to have him escape and manage to break into the towncore the average town should usually have.

This game we had the advantage of an all over the place town, but plenty of them were pretty town however just failed to recognize each other.

[Creature]

Also the selfhammers really extended our lifespan.

[Enter]

The flip off of NMSA really threw me off. That was absolutely terrible. I think my activity level dropped to new lows. It's funny because between Ank's strategy and URAPs read flip I could swear it was planned

[Ankamius]

Hm?

[Nimueh]

Also the selfhammers really extended our lifespan.

Creature, congrats, you played extremely well, for such a townsided game.

[NotMySpamAccount]

lol calling this setup scumsided

It's scumsided. That's a fact.

I'm townsided. That helped.

"you're townsided" just became my new favorite ms compliment

[Creature]

I'm known as +town EV in MU.

[Tohru]

Four mislynches in a row is still hard to achieve, even if you somehow manage to save your scummy member long enough to have him escape and manage to break into the towncore the average town should usually have.

This game we had the advantage of an all over the place town, but plenty of them were pretty town however just failed to recognize each other.

Town had no PRs...

[Ankamius]

And no nightkills denies info too :V

Plus the self hammers...

[Nimueh]

Also the selfhammers really extended our lifespan.

Creature, congrats, you played extremely well, for such a townsided game.

New and improved town lynches, now with self-hammers.

[Nimueh]

And no nightkills denies info too :V

Plus the self hammers...

Ank, why did you replace out?

[Elbirn]

Hang on are we arguing about the balance of a game where in order to win as scum you had to have a perfect game?

Lol?

[Enter]

Hang on are we arguing about the balance of a game where in order to win as scum you had to have a perfect game?

Lol?

A perfect scum game that is guaranteed to go to 4 days if you're playing perfectly.

In addition to having to have someone last to day 4, town also gets a guaranteed scum flip by day 3 and on day 4 there is one scum and both of their buddies have flipped, so associatives must have been maintained throughout the game to keep said player from being lynched.

[Enter]

You'll have to forgive me if I snarfed when I read someone saying the game was town sided.