Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Extrapolated Eagle]

even without knowing Shoshin is town already, she looks a lot more town to me than DT does

but in the moment where that was current, emotions were high enough that it looked flipped

Xtoxm voting for DT instead of going along with the Shoshin wagon has a much better look in hindsight with that scenario in mind (as a reference, grapes voted the shoshin wagon afterwards with a really sketchy justification)

I follow.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

you ready for another 20?

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

Votecount 1.4

Shoshin(5)

~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(5), DoubtingThomas(59), Shoshin(21), Xtoxm(10)

Xtoxm(1)

~ DrDolittle(9)

Vedith(1)

~ Extrapolated Eagle(55)

NerfedBuJ(1)

~ grapes(3)

Lycanfire(1)

~ mcqueen(1)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ PvtUrist(9)

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ Frozen Angel(23)

DoubtingThomas(1)

~ Reiuji Utsuho(13)

Clemency(1)

~ Alisae(31)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Clemency(6), Vedith(23), Karmeleon(3)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

Votecount 1.5

Shoshin(3)

~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(8), DoubtingThomas(68)

DoubtingThomas(3)

~ Reiuji Utsuho(13), Shoshin(28), Xtoxm(13)

Xtoxm(1)

~ DrDolittle(9)

Vedith(1)

~ Extrapolated Eagle(61)

NerfedBuJ(1)

~ grapes(3)

Lycanfire(1)

~ mcqueen(1)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ PvtUrist(9)

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ Frozen Angel(23)

Clemency(1)

~ Alisae(32)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Clemency(6), Vedith(23), Karmeleon(4)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

Votecount 1.6

Shoshin(3)

~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(8), DoubtingThomas(70)

DoubtingThomas(3)

~ Reiuji Utsuho(13), Shoshin(33), Xtoxm(13)

Xtoxm(1)

~ DrDolittle(9)

Vedith(1)

~ Extrapolated Eagle(65)

NerfedBuJ(1)

~ grapes(3)

Lycanfire(1)

~ mcqueen(1)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ PvtUrist(9)

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ Frozen Angel(23)

Clemency(1)

~ Alisae(32)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Clemency(6), Vedith(24), Karmeleon(7)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

Votecount 1.7

Shoshin(4)

~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(9), DoubtingThomas(70), grapes(5)

DoubtingThomas(3)

~ Reiuji Utsuho(17), Shoshin(45), Xtoxm(15)

Xtoxm(1)

~ DrDolittle(15)

Vedith(1)

~ Extrapolated Eagle(78)

Lycanfire(1)

~ mcqueen(1)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ PvtUrist(10)

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ Frozen Angel(23)

Clemency(1)

~ Alisae(32)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Clemency(6), Vedith(32), Karmeleon(8)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

Votecount 1.8

Shoshin(4)

~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(13), DoubtingThomas(88), Frozen Angel(69)

Xtoxm(2)

~ DrDolittle(24), Shoshin(79)

NerfedBuJ(2)

~ Vedith(73), grapes(16)

DoubtingThomas(2)

~ Xtoxm(16), Alisae(76)

Vedith(1)

~ Extrapolated Eagle(90)

Lycanfire(1)

~ mcqueen(1)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ PvtUrist(14)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Reiuji Utsuho(36), Clemency(9), Karmeleon(16)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

Searching for a replacement for Frozen Angel.

Votecount 1.9

Shoshin(4)

~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(13), DoubtingThomas(88), Jingle(85)

NerfedBuJ(4)

~ Vedith(75), DrDolittle(26)， grapes(16), Shoshin(83)

DoubtingThomas(2)

~ Xtoxm(16), Alisae(86)

Vedith(1)

~ Extrapolated Eagle(98)

Lycanfire(1)

~ mcqueen(1)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ PvtUrist(14)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Reiuji Utsuho(37), Clemency(9), Karmeleon(19)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

this succession of VCs might be important later

Pedit: sure

[Extrapolated Eagle]

dannflor are you scum

[Ankamius]

good odds of yes

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I don't think this is TvT by the way.

Do you still hold this perspective?

Dannflor might be the best lynch here, actually.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

VOTE: Dannflor

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I've gotta go do other things for a bit so I'm sharing my thoughts here:

Spoiler:

21+

Vedith is wrong but town

DDL looks better

DT looks worse, his OMGUS on vedith isn't great

grapes voting xtoxm is interesting, maybe makes xtoxm look more townie?

I think I also like xtoxm's response to grapes... and grapes has voted two people I townread (shoshin and myself) which means maybe he doesn't vote for buddies? if he does, i think it's more likely to be buj just based around these:

VOTE: Nerfedbuj
About time boys

VOTE: Nerfedbuj

they're the only votes without any sort of explanation around them and buj is the only person he's voted twice

don't particularly like Vedith unvoting DT? Maybe it's fine. I like the content of his post.. tonally reads a bit off to me, though

I don't know what you're looking for, Grapes. DT's pushing a mislynch on me by emphasizing stuff he calls "anti-town" while ignoring extensive evidence that this stuff isn't AI for me. He's also been unclear about whether he's pushing a PL or pushing me because he thinks I'm flipping scum.

I mean like I'd be voting dt right now if I thought he was doing anything close to

"let's policy lynch this!"

"I mean... n-n-n-no wait I mean this is totally a scum lynch! There's no policy here "

But what it seems to me is that he was just pushing a policy lynch on a scumread like it doesn't have to be a mutually exclusive thing ya know?

I'm just giving you the benfit of the doubt and want you to spell out for me (i need to be spoonfed- something you all should get used to sooner rather than later) where you think he's doing this between the lines if that makes sense. Cuz those are the kinda scum cases I fuck with... but like I said I just don't see that happening.

this might make DT scum

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not sure i like alisae pushing DT so hard using eir reasoning

definitely don't like ali getting defensive on vedith

dannflor almost guaranteed flips sucm here

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Also I made the posts I made because I knew that was about the time you replaced out of 2059 and found out that I was scum in that

So I totally expected you to get paranoid of me but trust me my scum game that game was terrible I was just playing with people i was comfortable with so it was a lot easier for me to play around them

[Ankamius]

idk how to feel about grapes having to justify his vote on shoshin as much as he did but the one on BuJ (4th vote I think?) was much more blunt

[Ankamius]

Also I made the posts I made because I knew that was about the time you replaced out of 2059 and found out that I was scum in that

So I totally expected you to get paranoid of me but trust me my scum game that game was terrible I was just playing with people i was comfortable with so it was a lot easier for me to play around them

fair

tbh I didn't get spoiled for like a day and a half so

although once succinct was pointed out to me as being probably scum, it was starting to sink in :V

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Dannflor

[Ankamius]

I think I also like xtoxm's response to grapes... and grapes has voted two people I townread (shoshin and myself) which means maybe he doesn't vote for buddies? if he does, i think it's more likely to be buj just based around these:

idk a whole lot about grapes (only times I played with him was SvT last year and TvS like 4 years ago) so I can't really comment on this? it's plausible that it might feel more natural for him to vote people he knows is scum than people he knows aren't, but it's still... weak, and I don't think BuJ's posting on p21 come from a scum mindset anymore

[Reiuji Utsuho]

5 at the absolute worst case scenario

Yep.

Oh, that's a lot more than I thought.
I just need 9 solid townreads then. It should be easy enough.

[Ankamius]

How many do you have so far Rei?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

We all agree on these townreads, right?

1. Prince of Renais
   
2. NerfedBuJ
   
3. Karmeleon

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Eh not really at this point.

I'm very sure two scums are in this list and rest are town.

- DDL
- Vedith
- MP
- Ligar

This was my last given reads.

[Ankamius]

I'll have to get to the other two with this readthrough but Karmeleon yes

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Between this and now were some baseless/random "what-if" scenarios and paranoia inside my head so I'm not going to bother posting what went through my minds in that period.

[Ankamius]

What's your confidence on FAslot and Alisaeslot?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I'll have to get to the other two with this readthrough but Karmeleon yes

I think D1 wagon record itself makes him town to be honest.

[Prince of Renais]

Xtoxm is scum

[Ankamius]

I'm just watching and wondering what's going on while hiding in the background.

So what's your guesses?

The pushes on Shoshin at this point are shitty and we should go elsewhere.

Guess what? I'm gonna ignore that DT/Shoshin/FA shit and look for who was skating by.

add these to the reasons karmeleon is town

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What's your confidence on FAslot and Alisaeslot?

I'd get a bit paranoid about my reads on them if the game was nearing the end and they were both still alive.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Xtoxm is scum

And this is after you cooled your head a bit right?
You had him as "near locktown" for very long while and you did mention that you have weakness when people call you scum.
And I'm going to be honest I was kinda sheeping you on that read for a while.