Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

[insomnia]

That’s why RCE and Ank were not on the same page as me and Alisae

Rui’s being universally town read which makes me puke

But when we start a new wagon, people don’t feel like sending Alisae

Rui needs to be kept alive in order for us to figure scum. That’s why I didn’t agree with Ank and RCE.

If Rui stays alive tomorrow, she’s 90% scum and her scum mates pushed her from today.

If Rui is town, she’ll die tomorrow, which proves my theory that she was being pushed by scum either way because she’s being universally town read and scum want to get rid of her by any means.

[Ankamius]

oh, yeah that's drastically different than what I thought

[Ankamius]

but my theory also depends on you being scum so...

[RCEnigma]

Well I could have just shot DDL because he townread me so. That's kinda surface.

[GuiltyLion]

GuiltyLion out of curiosity

what do you think scum's plan are this game if they have one

I think NSG is/was town and they're trying to work their way in D2 or D3

RC's gonna hate me for being paranoid of his slot and while I'm like relatively high confidence it's town, if he were scum here, he'd have to get a buddy in on D2/D3 as consensus was forming not to do NSG-RC access point and he had already agreed to that himself. maybe that buddy would be Rui?

but if scum!Alisae replaces in and is able to talk down the RC paranoia as scum, then they'd push to get Alisae in today

if NSG/Alisae are both town then they probably just ff at this point or just go all in on whoever the most townread member is

[insomnia]

but my theory also depends on you being scum so...

Yeah I’m not dumb, I’ve legit quoted your post and said that.

[Alisae]

Go on random.org and randomly shoot, that’ll make it more enjoyable I feel like

I raised you well my child

[GuiltyLion]

Well I could have just shot DDL because he townread me so. That's kinda surface.

you could have but you wouldn't when there are way more important targets to kill

DDL wasn't like a consensus D2 access point from where I'm sitting

[Alisae]

Ap Alisae

If Rui dies tomorrow it means scum wanted a really strong town read to get out of the game, doesn’t matter if that means her getting AP’d or her dying to a nk

And then by VCA you check all Rui voters and see where they’ll vote tomorrow

If Rui’s alive, high chance she’s scum, just send Ankamius

Ezclap shoot me I’m outtie yeet

oh thats just the surface

[insomnia]

Is there more to it?

[RCEnigma]

If Rui stays alive tomorrow, she’s 90% scum and her scum mates pushed her from today.

If Rui is town, she’ll die tomorrow, which proves my theory that she was being pushed by scum either way because she’s being universally town read and scum want to get rid of her by any means.

Again, you could just say "RCE is scum" here.

[Ankamius]

GuiltyLion out of curiosity

what do you think scum's plan are this game if they have one

I think NSG is/was town and they're trying to work their way in D2 or D3

RC's gonna hate me for being paranoid of his slot and while I'm like relatively high confidence it's town, if he were scum here, he'd have to get a buddy in on D2/D3 as consensus was forming not to do NSG-RC access point and he had already agreed to that himself. maybe that buddy would be Rui?

but if scum!Alisae replaces in and is able to talk down the RC paranoia as scum, then they'd push to get Alisae in today

if NSG/Alisae are both town then they probably just ff at this point or just go all in on whoever the most townread member is

Scum!RCs plan was very likely to win by sending two scum into the access point, which is strongly shown by him not pushing to send himself there (at least not right away)

technically there is a chance that RCslot and Ruirui are both scum (and in which case this current plan singlehandedly loses the game) but I don't think that has a very good chance of happening.

And tbh even if it is, then I'm blaming this game on most of the town not even playing so

[Ankamius]

ftr I think there's very high odds that I'm the NK if I'm not sent today

[Alisae]

Is there more to it?

mhmm
its amazing how easy it is to catch scum just by reading the gamestate

[insomnia]

I don’t think all scum were on her wagon, that’s why i’m not pointing fingers. It’s bs to believe that. I don’t even think all scums were on it. I think townies went for the consensus and they were willing to send her way too quickly.

[GuiltyLion]

Are you joking me? You want him to send the both of his scum buddies on AP and the post-flip is what matters to you? When RC is the only scum flip? Lmao

who's the second scum buddy you think, insomnia

If you let RC live day 2, his push will tell you who the second buddy is

My whole scenario was this:

I went from the premise that RC is town. RC pushes town NSG.

If RC doesn't get nked, we're letting RC push a second town read. When that town read reaches L-1 or L-2, we dayvig RC to prove he was town and he didn't send scum!NSG on AP in the first day. If he flips town, we're pushing through with his town read, sending his town read to PT with town!NSG that has been confirmed after RC flips.

This is an infallible scenario and the person we send on day 3 doesn't matter. That person gets lynched in the AP PT. Please point out how this strategy is shit.

And also explain why RC doesn't want to push through with this simple yet effective plan. I wonder why he doesn't want to flip, hmmmm

this is a good post

insomnia I see where you're coming from when you're not being aggressive/taunting

[insomnia]

Is there more to it?

mhmm
its amazing how easy it is to catch scum just by reading the gamestate

[RCEnigma]

Well I could have just shot DDL because he townread me so. That's kinda surface.

you could have but you wouldn't when there are way more important targets to kill

DDL wasn't like a consensus D2 access point from where I'm sitting

Yeah but like, I don't kill RC there because I'm on the Fringe of his AP choices and without NSG he's the loudest voice of the town. Plus he isn't advocating to AP himself and probably talks people out of entertaining it day 2.

I maybe shoot Rui but that's only if I don't think I can out-town her.

DDL just makes sense, outside of that there wasn't strong consideration for anyone else.

[insomnia]

Are you joking me? You want him to send the both of his scum buddies on AP and the post-flip is what matters to you? When RC is the only scum flip? Lmao

who's the second scum buddy you think, insomnia

If you let RC live day 2, his push will tell you who the second buddy is

My whole scenario was this:

I went from the premise that RC is town. RC pushes town NSG.

If RC doesn't get nked, we're letting RC push a second town read. When that town read reaches L-1 or L-2, we dayvig RC to prove he was town and he didn't send scum!NSG on AP in the first day. If he flips town, we're pushing through with his town read, sending his town read to PT with town!NSG that has been confirmed after RC flips.

This is an infallible scenario and the person we send on day 3 doesn't matter. That person gets lynched in the AP PT. Please point out how this strategy is shit.

And also explain why RC doesn't want to push through with this simple yet effective plan. I wonder why he doesn't want to flip, hmmmm

this is a good post

insomnia I see where you're coming from when you're not being aggressive/taunting

Is my plan finally being acknowledged?

It’s too late now

[Alisae]

Is there more to it?

mhmm
its amazing how easy it is to catch scum just by reading the gamestate

think on that for a bit
maybe it'll click D3

[Alisae]

I think I found my newbie
I am going to raise you proud and loud boy

[Alisae]

waaaaaaaaaaaah I'm crying ;~;

[GuiltyLion]

wonder if we should send RC and insomnia and let them duke it out in lylo lol. the game would then clear itself if both were town. I don't think both are scum

i actually leantown on insomnia after this exchange.

[Ankamius]

if NSG is legitimately scum this game, she pulled off a damn impressive game and I would not feel bad losing to it at all.

[insomnia]

It seems like I’m always not getting the nks.

Why was DDL shot instead of Rui?

What did he do to get nked?

Did he town read someone? Rui was being town read by a lot more people.

I sometimes don’t get the nks in this game