Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

[GuiltyLion]

like basically

if there's a deepwolf it can only be Alisae or Rui. IMO it's never insomnia and it's never Ank.

so if we send one of those two in it's okay. I'm not comfortable with NSG/Alisae/Rui. even if only one scum in Alisae/Rui that's a hard as fuck LYLO to give to NSG

[insomnia]

Heavily dependant on flips.

I have 2 scum lurkers who say “Insomnia is town”, those being Roster and DT. I’m goodie in here, game solving.

[insomnia]

If this game ends up in LyLo with nsg/me/ank

You do realise you’re basically telling the both of them “You’re conftown, third’s a filler, just lynch them”

Especially if that’s me, the person that has at least one scum town reading me for no reason.

[GuiltyLion]

yes but like

I'm confident enough in Ank/NSG townreads to be comfortable with that

I get that you're not, but we're both probably working with incomplete info here

[insomnia]

I guess if everyone goes for this formation, I’ll have to be nked, otherwise it would be a stomp that the scum is taking.

And if I’m nked, Rui will be a way easier read.

I dunno, your pick, just take into account what I’ve said.

[GuiltyLion]

like you can talk with me, you know my motives are pure

who do you think is scum between NSG/Ank in that world

and if their buddies flip, don't you think you can use that info?

[insomnia]

If I’m not getting nked tonight, scum is most likely in the AP already. Or will be.

[GuiltyLion]

insomnia if we AP'd Alisae and Ank died, who would you want to send in?

[Ankamius]

insomnia I'm curious what's changed between before when you really wanted me pushed into the AP and now?

[RuiRui]

I'd be comfortable with RCE in the AP too

Alisae seems town to me

Ankamius is my preferred AP today

would be fine with insomnia in AP

Anyone else aside from me I don't want in the AP

[RuiRui]

I just want Grand Paradox to come back and take a looksie at labrat/Ank again, since that's the only reason we couldn't push that in

[GuiltyLion]

lemme just think through this like this too:

I'm fine with:
NSG/Ank/insomnia
NSG/Ank/Rui
NSG/Ank/RCE?
NSG/Ank/Alisae

I'm not fine with:
NSG/Alisae/insomnia (fear of LYLO loss here, no offense NSG)
NSG/Alisae/Rui (fear of insta loss here from Alisae-Rui powerscum team)

my fears are very likely paranoid and unfounded but I feel as long as we avoid my two disliked final 3s - which we can easily do by just APing Ank - we're gucci

[insomnia]

GL, you don’t understand my point.

You’re going from the premise that this never goes in LyLo. And then I say, what IF it does? You do realise by posting stuff like “Who out of NSG / Ank would ever be scum” you’re already pointing fingers to the third person IF if goes into LyLo.

The town that will be there will be inclined to lynch me and scum just has to hammer.

I’m raising a hypothetical scenario in which we end up in LyLo with a NSG/Ank/Insomnia formation.

And then I’m saying I’m town. You’re locking the other two persons as town, when I know I’m town.

IF we do get to LyLo, I’m lynched. There’s no doubt in my mind.

Fuck it, if we end up in LyLo then scum deserves this.

Let’s send Ank and the nk will tell us more.

[RuiRui]

NSG/Alisae/Rui (fear of insta loss here from Alisae-Rui powerscum team)

Just fyi I had the opportunity to hammer Alisae earlier but you said you were going to post thoughts so I held off

[Alisae]

I'm not fine with:
NSG/Alisae/insomnia (fear of LYLO loss here, no offense NSG)
NSG/Alisae/Rui (fear of insta loss here from Alisae-Rui powerscum team)

nah, insomnia scum would have to work hard to get AP'd over Rui. It would require both of his buddies, it outs him, and he dies in lylo and flips scum.
NSG/Ali/RuiRui goes to LyLo and depending on how Day 3 plays out, that gets outed immediately.

which is why all 3 of those are auto-win.

[GuiltyLion]

NSG/Alisae/Rui (fear of insta loss here from Alisae-Rui powerscum team)

Just fyi I had the opportunity to hammer Alisae earlier but you said you were going to post thoughts so I held off

well yah cause if you hammered Alisae I'd be unhappy and probably not AP you d3

Alisae do you think any of my non-you F3s are risk of loss?

[Alisae]

Additionally
D3, scum can sneak in the person they want to get AP'd over me because they can just shade RC all day and make me feel like a worthless piece of shit

[insomnia]

insomnia I'm curious what's changed between before when you really wanted me pushed into the AP and now?

You’re scum reading me when your slot repped out because people didn’t tr me.

You also wanted Rui sent.

I don’t fucking know. My scenario works best fmpov. We send Alisae and the NK tells us who we’re sending tomorrow.

GL, getting back at my thing. My whole point is you probably should give a harder time for the people in AP if it ends up in LyLo, rather than distorting the reality of events and give them a way easier time if you were to send me. People in the Ap will insta lynch me. If you send someone harder to read, there is a chance we win in LyLo. If you’re sending me, you’re giving scum the easiest win. That’s my point.

[Alisae]

If Ank is scum town basically lost the game.

[GuiltyLion]

Additionally
D3, scum can sneak in the person they want to get AP'd over me because they can just shade RC all day and make me feel like a worthless piece of shit

what if I promise I'll AP you if you survive D3

I just don't want NSG/Alisae + Ank dead world. that world feels cold, dark, and scary to me.

[insomnia]

insomnia if we AP'd Alisae and Ank died, who would you want to send in?

Definitely not Rui, it would be harder for me to sort, but we’ll have to send in the towniest lurker.

This all requires a lot more thinking which is a drag, but I’ll do it.

[Ankamius]

do you believe there's good odds I'm scum here Alisae?

trying to push myself to be APed D3 is a strategy I would be able to come up with but executing on my strategies are always a huge weak point for me as scum

[insomnia]

Thing is you don’t even have to work for anything, your slot’s rep out has done the job for you. You don’t have to execute anything.

[insomnia]

Assuming you’re scum

[Ankamius]

yeah but if town gets pushed in D3

then I still have to deal with NSG!town