Fire on the Mountain [Over]

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3575 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:31 am

Like, 5 people pool with two mafia left.
We only need 40% accuracy or higher.

Xtoxm · Post Post #3576 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:32 am

that kind of confidence is incredibly daft

NerfedBuJ · Post Post #3577 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:33 am

Xtox is either insane, or scum, or compeletely overestimating the danger of scum here.

NerfedBuJ · Post Post #3578 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:34 am

Doesn't change anything though.. let's vote

Vedith or liger or max

Xtoxm · Post Post #3579 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:34 am

no im not
game is mountainous but harder bc solo scum can endgame like 8 town at the same time, meaning the lynchpool at lylo is way larger than normal
you know scum almost always win mtness right?

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3580 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:37 am

In post 3576, Xtoxm wrote:that kind of confidence is incredibly daft

Sulking gets you nowhere.
Confidence at least gets you somewhere.

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3581 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:38 am

Like, one of the reason why this game feels hard right now is because we have too many obvious towns in this game that scum can't really penetrate, resulting read similarity regardless of the alignment.
That's a

good

thing, if you ask me.

NerfedBuJ · Post Post #3582 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:40 am

Your problem is you hate Prince so much you think he can still be scum here. When him being scum just makes him one of if not the absolute biggest scumbag on MS. Read back around the time of DT's replacement and tell me how you think that ever comes from scum.

If you have the same view as I do, which is that prince, EE, and rei are all scum here without a shred of doubt, you would also believe that scum have already lost.

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3583 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:40 am

Like I can't stop people from being all negative about this game and whatnot.
But today is only Day 3, and we already lynched one out of three mafia.
It's waaaay too early to feel depressed, anxious, sulky, whatever.

Dannflor · Post Post #3584 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:41 am

In post 3582, NerfedBuJ wrote:If you have the same view as I do, which is that prince, EE, and rei are all scum here without a shred of doubt, you would also believe that scum have already lost.

you meant to say town here, yea?

NerfedBuJ · Post Post #3585 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:42 am

In post 3584, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3582, NerfedBuJ wrote:If you have the same view as I do, which is that prince, EE, and rei are all scum here without a shred of doubt, you would also believe that scum have already lost.
you meant to say town here, yea?

Yes the first scum is supposed to be town. Those 3 are always always town here.

Xtoxm · Post Post #3586 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:45 am

In post 3582, NerfedBuJ wrote:If you have the same view as I do, which is that prince, EE, and rei are all scum here without a shred of doubt, you would also believe that scum have already lost.

ok, thats 3 townreads. now give me 6 more.
you need 9 to not be endgamed, remember.
not so easy, is it

Ankamius · Post Post #3587 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:46 am

In post 3563, Dannflor wrote:Hey Ank/Enter, can one of you look at this game and tell me if you think Buj's ISO is similar to here?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10669500

I don't use cold meta unless I have a very specific thing I'm looking for

it's useless otherwise

Ankamius · Post Post #3588 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:46 am

In post 3566, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Also I think mcqueen is still town?
I think he's just playing differently compared to others.

can you convince me on him or give me some quotes to look at?

he's been one of those players that's slipped under the radar for me so far

Ankamius · Post Post #3589 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:47 am

In post 3568, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Personally, mine looks like this at the moment.

Prince of Renais

Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
Just kidding
)

Karmeleon

RAE

Ankamius

Jingle

mcqueen

Dannflor

???

That "???" was BuJ but because many people are telling me wrong I'm gonna take my time some day between today and tomorrow and look over their cases on him.

Agree
Agree (EE is WELL out of his scumrange at this point, he never flips scum here)
Agree
Agree
Agree obviously
Agree
Not sure
Not sure

Ankamius · Post Post #3590 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:48 am

In post 3570, Xtoxm wrote:worst case scenario we need a list of 9 town players that doesnt get infiltrated by scum to avoid being endgamed
game seems really hard for town to win
even if prince is town i kinda doubt itll happen

this game is actually pretty solvable

there's an impressive amount of information available already and today is looking like a goldmine for future days

Dannflor · Post Post #3591 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:49 am

In post 3587, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3563, Dannflor wrote:Hey Ank/Enter, can one of you look at this game and tell me if you think Buj's ISO is similar to here?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10669500
I don't use cold meta unless I have a very specific thing I'm looking for

it's useless otherwise

Only curious because that's my meta with him and his analysis there vs. analysis here feels very different to me.

Ankamius · Post Post #3592 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:50 am

that's still pretty useless by itself, Dann

as you've already noticed, I approach each game pretty differently from each other

the important part is

why

each approach is different.

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3593 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:52 am

In post 3291, mcqueen wrote:
In post 3154, Jingle wrote:Can we not focus on a pissing match rn? It really doesn't matter who is right or wrong. If the fight happens, everyone loses.
it does matter. If xtoxm overreacted on purpose just to start shit and dilute the focus on him being scum, well then thats an outstanding move.

you dont think xtoxm could pull it off?

In post 3295, mcqueen wrote:
In post 3293, NerfedBuJ wrote:Okay mcqueen is definitely town.

But no thanks I ain't commenting on that post.
look Xtoxm can give me flak post game for this, but I can so easily see how his post could be faked.

If it was, Xtoxm is definitely scum.

If not, he’s probably town.

If Xtoxm is scum, prince is not. X- town, p- either

Posts like this, generally.

I don't think "Xtoxm can be scum who is faking the whole hatred thing" is a trajectory that scum wants to pursue ever in this situation.

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3594 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:52 am

In post 3291, mcqueen wrote:
In post 3154, Jingle wrote:Can we not focus on a pissing match rn? It really doesn't matter who is right or wrong. If the fight happens, everyone loses.
it does matter. If xtoxm overreacted on purpose just to start shit and dilute the focus on him being scum, well then thats an outstanding move.

you dont think xtoxm could pull it off?

In post 3295, mcqueen wrote:
In post 3293, NerfedBuJ wrote:Okay mcqueen is definitely town.

But no thanks I ain't commenting on that post.
look Xtoxm can give me flak post game for this, but I can so easily see how his post could be faked.

If it was, Xtoxm is definitely scum.

If not, he’s probably town.

If Xtoxm is scum, prince is not. X- town, p- either

Posts like this, generally.

I don't think "Xtoxm can be scum who is faking the whole hatred thing" is a trajectory that scum wants to pursue ever in this situation.

Dannflor · Post Post #3595 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:52 am

In post 3588, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3566, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Also I think mcqueen is still town?
I think he's just playing differently compared to others.
can you convince me on him or give me some quotes to look at?

he's been one of those players that's slipped under the radar for me so far

It's small, but I honestly think a majority of the time scum isn't gonna say stuff like this, particularly not in a game state like this one:

In post 3294, mcqueen wrote:Im doing nothing mostly because im lazy, but im also not interested in getting involved to the level that we’ve had multiple arguments throughout the game now.

Reiuji Utsuho · Post Post #3596 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:52 am

Now how did that happen?

Ankamius · Post Post #3597 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:54 am

In post 3595, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3588, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3566, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Also I think mcqueen is still town?
I think he's just playing differently compared to others.
can you convince me on him or give me some quotes to look at?

he's been one of those players that's slipped under the radar for me so far
It's small, but I honestly think a majority of the time scum isn't gonna say stuff like this, particularly not in a game state like this one:

In post 3294, mcqueen wrote:Im doing nothing mostly because im lazy, but im also not interested in getting involved to the level that we’ve had multiple arguments throughout the game now.

this actually makes a lot of sense

yeah I can agree to it then

Extrapolated Eagle · Post Post #3598 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:56 am

In post 3571, NerfedBuJ wrote:It's 2 people. 1 of them being EE who just pulled off the greatest town on town betrayal. He's been townreading me forever.
Jingle has just had a blanket null on my slot. Doesn't count as a scumread.

Anyway if they insist on lynching me at least lynch xtox first. If he flips scum I'm confirmed town because of his recent townspew.

I'm feeling paranoid.

List of hard townread I temporarily betrayed today that resulted in a stronger townread:
Ank
Dann
Buj

Extrapolated Eagle · Post Post #3599 (ISO) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:57 am

Buj doesn't belong on that list in that I betrayed him but am not currently town reading him