Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I keep going back and forth on Vedith. I was prepared to have him in my solve but I keep wavering every time I go back over his ISO.

From what I know about scum!Vedith, he's not scared of open wolfing and hard defending a scum buddy Day 1 or interfering with the lynch. He doesn't do that here so much, but I do find posts like "Someone go over the Grapes wagon for me." pretty bad and how I would expect Vedith to approach his buddy being wagoned so quickly. That phrase is like the classic way to give yourself a way onto the wagon by putting the onus entirely on someone else, and at the same time hopefully slowing it down a bit. I'd also expect town!Vedith to be more critical of #1353, but maybe he's just caught in the Buj tunnel?

If Alisae is scum, I think Vedith scum becomes more likely because of this:

Alisae Scum on a BuJ scum flip.

Mostly down to the fact that I town read Buj pretty strongly, and his interactions with Alisae in this part of the game don't read genuine to me. Reads as Vedith setting Alisae up as a town read after he gets a mislynch on Buj.

On the other hand, I find Vedith's whole play style and the way he's been poking people in this game specifically fairly proactive and towny. I do think Vedith is a strong scum player though so I have some general paranoia towards him. When it's not 2am I'll maybe go over his ISO again and try to figure out if I my town vibes from him are concrete or not.

[Xtoxm]

Vedith can you engage with me on why you think I'm scum

I think you've scum read me in every game we've been in together regardless of either of our alignments

If you're town, I need to know you really believe the reasons you scum read me for here

haha, i was just thinking the same thing.
this is my 5th game with him and he's scumread me in every time, and ive been town every time
altho in one of them, his read on me later evolved to town (iirc i cced a doc claim so there was strong mechanical reason to tr me but yeah)

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I didn't even get a third of the way through Danns ISO

[Dannflor]

I mean I'll be the first one to admit I've been fence sitting on Vedith all game

I don't know that he believes that makes me scum though

[Vedith]

I had 3 reasons.

[Dannflor]

I've talked a lot about Vedith but I have certainly had trouble definitively town reading or scum reading him

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I mean I'll be the first one to admit I've been fence sitting on Vedith all game

I don't know that he believes that makes me scum though

So has everyone else lol.

Everyone has been fence sitting on the bottom half of the player list all game

You at least put effort in. :/

[Dannflor]

I had 3 reasons.

I'm aware.

I can't address gut

Why do my posts not have a town motivation from your pov

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Like today is a huge hurdle for us because we've all been fence sitting on like half the players in the game all day

[Dannflor]

Yea that's the trouble with mountainous especially with the lack of NK info

[Reiuji Utsuho]

We should just lynch Max instead to be honest.

[Vedith]

I had 3 reasons.

I'm aware.

I can't address gut

Why do my posts not have a town motivation from your pov

I don't know how to answer that without just saying they don't?
I think town you has a Scum or town read on me by now.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I like max

Can we lynch liger instead

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Remember that time we did marathon mountainous?

[Dannflor]

What do you like about Max?

[Dannflor]

Remember that time we did marathon mountainous?

it is forever etched into my memory

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I like max

Can we lynch liger instead

Max first and I'll consider it.

[Dannflor]

btw I'm working on that Jingle town case right now since I think he's a pet scum read for quite a few people

I still like a Max lynch most

I don't want a Vedith lynch rnow

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: vedith

i'll help this wagon just because he's failed to show any learning or courtesy on me
if i was wrong on sr a dude for 2-3 games in a row i'd at least go
"i'll leave this guy at null just cus ive been wrong on him so much"

[Vedith]

I haven't played with you for well over a year.
You could be making that meta up for all I know.

[Dannflor]

"i'll leave this guy at null just cus ive been wrong on him so much"

That really doesn't seem like Vedith though, town or not

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Just skimmed Max s ISO don't see anything that makes him scum

Do see things that make gamma scum, though, and liger isn't adding anything to the game

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm not lynching max rn, lynch him tomorrow when I'm dead

Let's get buj or liger

[Vedith]

And what logic is it for me to put a Scum read on null because I've been wrong in the past?

If that's the case majority of the players here shouldn't be allowed to vote me.

[Ankamius]

Can we not lynch Vedith