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[themilkcartonkid]

also

milk going

"but the claiiiiim"

and in his next post hammering shows lack of real progression

This is disingenuous, read the posts in between

[rosterfoster]

Ok I'll drop the alt business since it seems NAI here.

Nomnom & Urap still haven't addressed 282

I feel like this post happened because of a partner telling him to stop. 3 people doing this were URAP, Nom and Locke.

[rosterfoster]

Obviously Altricity is town. I don’t think scum pushes buddy so hard on OOG stuff.

[rosterfoster]

I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.

And no Urap I didn't think I was hammered. I may be a prick but I'm not an idiot lol

I think this means NM isn’t scum.

[rosterfoster]

GW, what are your reads at this point?

I agree that the flow of this game feels odd, but the argument that it means this wagon must be scum driven because I'm on it is not compelling fmpov (lol)

If not GW, I think I want Eragon, Jay, or Locke today

My townbloc is Urap, pp, nomnom and MCK. Scum Alac, Locke and Roster. Everyone else null.

Notice how he puts Locke in his scumbloc without ever interacting with him before, with the exception of the alt account thing and some fluff.

[rosterfoster]

And never tried to push Locke.

[rosterfoster]

Finally got a chance to read Eragon catch up. Reminds me of when I'd turn in a massive term paper 2 hrs before it's due, knowing the prof had neither time nor desire to read the damn thing. It's got lots of content, and lots of footnotes, it must be good!

Alas, his SR on me centers almost entirely on the Alacrity-alt business, which I dropped literally 15 pages ago and have no intention of revisiting. Is this a scummy push? More to the point, would scum continue to bang on at length about this, thereby drawing unwanted attention? Or is this more likely to come from a bullheaded town? I mean, I ask myself this all the time and it's usually the latter.

As I explained elsewhere, "Riff" means a joke in this context.

It was Nathan Hale, not Nathaniel Greene, who said "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."

I agree with most of these townreads, with the exception of Elsa and NM. Evidently to get townread by Eragon your playstyle must either be "fun" or YOLO. NM is unlynchable it seems. Elsa's ISO is really bad.

VOTE: Elsa

Vote on Elsa without reasons. IDK whether this is more likely to be a bus or not, so I’ll just leave it.

[rosterfoster]

What makes you think this wagon is led by town, if anything this feels like scum making use of the replace out to get votes of their partner

Feels like a soft-defense to me.

[rosterfoster]

Also means Locke/Eragon isn’t a team.

[rosterfoster]

It's such a bs reason to start pushing someone.

There's standard bs reasons, and there's that.

UNVOTE: GrandWazoo
Yeah, I'm not comfortable with GW at L-1 for a reason this weak, it's like the least scum-indicative thing about GW

I also feel like this is trying to stop the GW lynch. From memory I was comfortable going to L-1 because NM was already on the wagon.

[rosterfoster]

Well then I'm fine with helping start the Insomnia/Eragon wagon back up again, after all my read on GW is mainly based off the possibility of him being Insomnia's scum partner so why not find out whether Insomnia/Eragon is scum first

VOTE: Eragon

‘My read is based on being Insomnia’s scum partner’ seems untrue to me.

[rosterfoster]

A traitor would know the mafia but the mafia wouldn’t know them, so I’m more comfortable with saying that just Locke has these asdociatives.

VOTE: Locke

[Locke113]

Alacrity conftown. I noticed that town split into pairs. Lock and roster, me and nom, urap and alac, pp and Elsa. N-m grandwazoo and eragon never really had anyone they gelled with. I dont think alac kills the only one who was agreeing with their reads

I'm not sure I entirely understand the reasoning behind most of your pairs tbh. Though yes based off D1, I agree scum!Alacrity wouldn't NK urap.

What makes you think this wagon is led by town, if anything this feels like scum making use of the replace out to get votes of their partner

Feels like a soft-defense to me.

How? This was part of the whole me scumreading basically everyone on the wagon who wasn't n_m

Well then I'm fine with helping start the Insomnia/Eragon wagon back up again, after all my read on GW is mainly based off the possibility of him being Insomnia's scum partner so why not find out whether Insomnia/Eragon is scum first

VOTE: Eragon

‘My read is based on being Insomnia’s scum partner’ seems untrue to me.

Why does it seem untrue when I literally only started looking for other scum besides Insomnia based off the idea that they acted like they might be his scum partner?

[Locke113]

Also means Locke/Eragon isn’t a team.

Also I absolutely agree with this, though obviously not for the reason you think

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: roster

Your latest posts make me think you have scum information to say all of this, and it's visible in your wording choices in particular.

[Elsa Jay]

Still wonderful if anyone actually got neighborized but okay.

[themilkcartonkid]

VOTE: roster

Your latest posts make me think you have scum information to say all of this, and it's visible in your wording choices in particular.

Can you point some out please

[rosterfoster]

Your latest posts make me think you have scum information to say all of this, and it's visible in your wording choices in particular.

You mean because I brought up about the traitor? Because I realised about this when I was about to start ISO'ing Elsa for associatives that there probably wouldn't be if Elsa was traitor.

[rosterfoster]

Curious as to your thoughts so...I'm gone tomorrow and likely Tuesday, so tonight would be good.

My thoughts are that I see this game has 11 people and from a glance someone tried to fake hammer. Seems fun.

I'm going to assume 2 scum and 1 unrecruitable traitor ATM. Probably able to get killed by scum.

[rosterfoster]

Why does it seem untrue when I literally only started looking for other scum besides Insomnia based off the idea that they acted like they might be his scum partner?

His actions don't make sense to me from a town perspective, especially with his lack of fearing a quickhammer and the fact he was properly scumreading Insomnia. Like this explanation just seems fishy asf to me

Tells me that you had independent from being Insomnia's partner.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: roster

Your latest posts make me think you have scum information to say all of this, and it's visible in your wording choices in particular.

Can you point some out please

Roster was really assertive on day 1. A lot of certainties in their posts, a lot of confidence and general pushing a lot their convictions without much doubt. That really stood out to me even if it kind of stopped near the end of that day.

Then today you have this kind of post.

Ok I'll drop the alt business since it seems NAI here.

Nomnom & Urap still haven't addressed 282

I

feel like

this post happened because of a partner telling him to stop. 3 people doing this were URAP, Nom and Locke.

I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.

And no Urap I didn't think I was hammered. I may be a prick but I'm not an idiot lol

I

think

this means NM isn’t scum.

It's such a bs reason to start pushing someone.

There's standard bs reasons, and there's that.

UNVOTE: GrandWazoo
Yeah, I'm not comfortable with GW at L-1 for a reason this weak, it's like the least scum-indicative thing about GW

I also

feel like

this is trying to stop the GW lynch. From memory I was comfortable going to L-1 because NM was already on the wagon.

Well then I'm fine with helping start the Insomnia/Eragon wagon back up again, after all my read on GW is mainly based off the possibility of him being Insomnia's scum partner so why not find out whether Insomnia/Eragon is scum first

VOTE: Eragon

‘My read is based on being Insomnia’s scum partner’

seems

untrue to me.

Like if you read all of these you can see that a lot of it is speculation and that those lead to a Locke vote. The only post that isn't like this is the one calling Alacrity conftown.
There's also their post about a traitor, when I read it I was like "huh why are you mentioning a traitor all of a sudden".

So I think this either means that Roster is using scum information and that those are written as "feelings" (which is uncharacteristic considering his early game) or this means that it's a lot of additional nonsense to justify their Locke vote. This is scum either way.

[Locke113]

Why does it seem untrue when I literally only started looking for other scum besides Insomnia based off the idea that they acted like they might be his scum partner?

His actions don't make sense to me from a town perspective, especially with his lack of fearing a quickhammer and the fact he was properly scumreading Insomnia. Like this explanation just seems fishy asf to me

Tells me that you had independent from being Insomnia's partner.

How does that dispute me saying I

mainly

based my scumread of him off of the idea he was Insomnia/Eragon's scum parter

[rosterfoster]

How? This was part of the whole me scumreading basically everyone on the wagon who wasn't n_m

Yeah exactly, you're trying to discredit the wagon by shading its players but not the wagon itself. That's kind of what I mean by soft-defense.

Pedit: I always write like that lol. I'll address your specific points in a minute.

[rosterfoster]

How does that dispute me saying I mainly based my scumread of him off of the idea he was Insomnia/Eragon's scum parter

But your vote was because you didn't like his actions. I don't see how not fearing a quickhammer on Insomnia makes him Insomnia/Eragon's partner?

[rosterfoster]

Roster was really assertive on day 1. A lot of certainties in their posts, a lot of confidence and general pushing a lot their convictions without much doubt. That really stood out to me even if it kind of stopped near the end of that day.

Then today you have this kind of post.

This is how I try to get reactions day 1. Post flip (particularly scum flip) I can actually base my reads of how people interacted with known alignments, and it's much more about feeling than guesswork pretending-to-be-fact.