The Scummie for Best Scum (Don Corleone) [Winners Announced]


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The Scummie for Best Scum (Don Corleone) [Winners Announced]

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:23 am

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Most Cunning Manipulator (Don Corleone)

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:23 am

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The Winner of the Cunning Manipulator (Don Corleone) award is:

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A joint award (a tie!) between MagnaofIllusion for The Thing Mafia and Alisae for Night and Day Mafia


This was a tie vote with both Alisae and MoI getting exactly the same votes. The same number of #1 votes, the same number of #2 votes and the same number of #3 votes. As there was no way to break that kind of tie, they both receive the award!

Alisae's banner will have to wait until we can put together a rotating gif.

"As the scum member that survived the second longest, I worked with MoI over a period of about 3 months to clinch the victory from an extremely difficult start. Two of our members were lynched on Days 1 and 2, and from there me, Andrius, and Magna were all quite doubtful of a victory.

However, we managed to coordinate tight plays and moves as a team, even with our hands pretty much tied in terms of night play (which had been observed as questionable night kill decisions), we had almost a stranglehold on the day play from beginning to end. Especially Magna, who ENTIRELY escaped suspicion starting from Day 1. It was him that survived to the end without a single vote being placed on him for the entirety of the game.

Although to say that the busses and plays coordinated by the rest of the team did not play a factor in our ultimate victory would be a disservice to the rest of the team, it was still Magna that had the execution and planning down. He was integral in the moves we made throughout the game, and his executed bussing was in such a way that he escaped suspicious interaction tells entirely.

In my opinion, it's his dedication, consistent commitment, and overall fantastic play that deserve the scummy nom here."
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"I mentioned this in my nomination for Alisae as a Rising Star, but Alisae shone brightest here. Alisae has of course played strongly as scum before, and continues to get better with time, so perhaps Alisae will perform even better than this in some future game. But as of this writing, this is the pinnacle of scum performances.

While other players very notably contributed to the scum's victory, this was Alisae's game the entire way. Alisae manipulated the entire game from the get-go, making the vast majority of the scum's decisions. All of them were smart and on-point. Combined with some clever dayplay, and Alisae was able to position emself to be considered virtually confirmed town.

The amount of work Alisae did behind the scenes this game was remarkable. It all culminated in Alisae being able to spin the worst-case scenario for em into a win: Alisae was caught off-guard by texcat being a hider, and Alisae's scum roles were useless to stop the hide. In short, Alisae could do nothing to stop texcat the hider from confirming players as town/scum with impunity.

...However, Alisae was able to seize control of the light PT (where texcat would claim the hide), such that the only player alive to witness a lie would be the person said lie would be guiltying. In short, Alisae used a role which was the town's ace in the hole as the impetus to drive forward the town's defeat. All with very little warning.

That level of forethought, that level of advanced play where Alisae was able to turn a guilty on eir partner into a ""guilty"" on town securing the mylo mislynch necessary to win, is something which in of itself demonstrates Alisae's skill as a scum player.

I could also dig up many other scumgames of Alisae's where e performs incredibly well, but the nomination for Don Corelone is supposed to be for a single game only so I'll leave it here for now. Still, I think that Alisae being a consistently-good scum performer rather than having a one-off good scumgame should be taken into consideration, as it shows that this game was not a fluke. Alisae is GOOD at scum. REALLY good. With an understanding of exactly what path needs to be taken to achieve victory."
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:23 am

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First let me say thank you to the Scummies Judges for the honor. I appreciate the hard work that goes into the process especially since the Scummies are not viewed as entertaining and an event to savor as they once were.

Second let me congratulate Ali on her second win. Having two banners in a career is an accomplishment. Having two at the same time is very, very impressive.

Lastly thank you to SirCakez for modding and my wonderful teammates from ThingMafia for helping to put me in the position to be grateful I am today. While I do feel I played an excellent game there it would not have been possible without my wingmen Andy and EP with a nod to DGB even if she didn't last very long. I think EP said it best ... without great teammates to work with I might not have made the three month long grind to fight past a pretty strong Town contingent.

There is some symmetry to this Scummie coming from Thing when my Rookie of the Year was credited to Clash of Kings. Another game where scum (two teams instead of one) faced early adversity and worked long and hard to come out on top of Town in the end (even if not without an uneasy endgame truce).

To commemorate I've changed my avatar from the one I had since I first joined Mafiascum (aside from one-off events like Partyhatapalooza). Now let's go out there and play some games worthy of another Scummie ceremony next year everyone.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:02 am

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Okay this is going to be a serious "speech"
First off, I didn't think I would be tieing with MoI I thought I would be beaten by MoI because lol 3 noms.
Secondly, it is REALLY easy to powerwolf on MS with how bad towns are.
There weren't a lot of really good Don Corleone noms because for the most part, it was all towns killing each other, or wolves not really trying to go for mislynches and be towny.
And like, sure that wins games, but is that really a wolf win or is that a town loss?
I think its a town loss.
A wolf win is where the wolf dominates the whole game and baffles them with bullshit and takes them to victory.

Like as a wolf, you're not trying to be a town. Because you're not town. You're a wolf.
And when you're a wolf, literally anything you do is towards your wincon.
As a wolf, you have absolute freedom to do whatever it is you want to do.
And I think this game shows this?

I
> Replaced in
> Obvtowned the slot immediately and pushed mislynches
> Let town kill itself D1-D2
> Had Quantum move me into light by outing a result on me
> Shot one of my wolfbuds with a dayvig and claiming it as a Desperado Shot
> Busdrove 2 people (Bulba, Creature) which resulted in Bulba coming out with a "guilty" on TWIE
> Framed Bulba and Creature, pushing Bulba on the logic that he faked a guilty and was a wolf because of it.
> Panic'ed once a hider was moved into Light
> Then planned around that hider and use that to fake a guilty on Bulba for the MyLo mislynch which BY THE WAY, is extremely ironic because all I was doing was saying "BULBA FAKED A GUILTY LYNCH HIM."
> Then secured the MyLo mislynch for a win.

Wolfing with Math and Quantum was one of the best experiences I had working with a TEAM right next to Gay Mafia III.

Sure the setup was extremely wolfsided and town killed itself for the most part, but I worked hard for my win okay,
I feel like I earned this.

So thank you.

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:03 am

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Congratulations to a first (I think), joint winners MoI and Alisae!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:06 am

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MoI owned me in The Thing, this award was well earned

Congrats!
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:06 am

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by the way, this was super close to being a three way tie, but one vote prevented it.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:06 am

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I've been f5ing the page ever since it was posted.
I am actually freaking out right now oh my God
Serious Victory speech when MS works on my computer

Oh my fucking god
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:07 am

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In post 6, zoraster wrote:by the way, this was super close to being a three way tie, but one vote prevented it.
Poor RC :(
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:08 am

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best scum award is a curse not a blessing.

my deepest condolences to both of you.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:13 am

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alisae effect part 2

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:47 am

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In post 9, RadiantCowbells wrote:best scum award is a curse not a blessing. my deepest condolences to both of you.
Well, MoI barely plays anymore and Alisae's will be part of a rotating banner and thus not as immediately visible, so ya never know, maybe not.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:49 am

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I'm sorry I blacked out for a moment did someone say the thing?
*shudders*
Congrats Moi and Ali
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 4, zoraster wrote:Congratulations to a first (I think), joint winners MoI and Alisae!
In post 5, Spiffeh wrote:MoI owned me in The Thing, this award was well earned

Congrats!
Thanks kindly both of you.
In post 12, MariaR wrote:I'm sorry I blacked out for a moment did someone say the thing?
*shudders*
Congrats Moi and Ali
Maria I'm sorry I had to scar you like that and turn you to the side of the solitary murder machine. But hey you got a banner out of it so no harm done right? :D
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:41 pm

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Congratulations you guys!
I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:44 pm

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THANK YOU TAMMY!!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:41 am

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Also from me congrats. Because I know MoI more, that will probably mean more for him.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:46 am

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In post 14, Tammy wrote:Congratulations you guys!
Thanks Tammy. Come play Geriatric games with me!
In post 16, StefanB wrote:Also from me congrats. Because I know MoI more, that will probably mean more for him.
Live with a year of paranoia. :D
I’ve been living with paranoia since I got my custom title so no change here. :D
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:04 am

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Congrats to both!

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:28 am

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In post 17, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 14, Tammy wrote:Congratulations you guys!
Thanks Tammy. Come play Geriatric games with me!
I'm nearing the end of my mafia hiatus, and that ruleset looks like the best I can handle right now, so I definitely will. Looking forward to playing with you again!
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:09 pm

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Congratulations Magna!
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:10 pm

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In post 20, Plotinus wrote:Congratulations Magna!
I feel left out
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:12 pm

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Oh sorry I didn't know you won too
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:43 am

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In post 20, Plotinus wrote:Congratulations Magna!
Thanks kindly Plot!
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:17 pm

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