Newbie 1924 - Game Over

[Datisi]

I think RC is Town since he seems he's looking for info that Town needs.
Voted is fishy since they keep on avoiding questions by delaying it with more questions.

I mean, it definitely looks like you're trying to avoid questions too. Hopefully you'll post more once you catch up?

[Datisi]

Btw, @Clarity, what is your opinion on Salad, if I may ask? I'm kinda curious.

[Voted]

- the weird interaction with RCE which could be SvS
- lack of substance
- when asked for reads u say the 2 most obvious things

What is SvS?

[Voted]

I've already said I'll ignore it. However, if you yourself aren't scum then 2 of the other 8 slots are. A random vote to start the day is more likely to land on town than scum and you haven't done anything to slim those numbers down so to think that your Rand vote landed on scum is poor reasoning.

It also doesn't reinforce wether I'm scum or not scum, just thank you aren't bothered to figure out if you are voting scum or town.

I think in your case I'm giving more leeway for a couple different reasons - new player, both games played you rolled scum I believe? So you may not have a strong base on how to scumhunt or what looks scummy when you aren't playing an informed slot.

I'll use my Voted read as an example. In addition to the things I've mentioned there are a couple things going on with him such as the contrast between his initial calm reaction when his wagon peaked and the survivalist push he made on salad afterwards. So 1, it could be seen as a playstyle difference (goes along with my theory of Voted +coaching, possible SE).

His disinterest in wether scum was voting him or not is +scum, scum!him would already know if this is true or not so may not be bothered with soring out motivations or intentions.

His unvote on salad when Vedith posted intent to hammer could go either way I guess. No one has really come to his defense so normally I would like to think he's town being left out by scum to cook but his pressure flipped onto me when I pushed further so I can't really ignore that and call it town.

From ToS:
bad scums tend to vote (town) either as 1st/ 2nd vote or as last votes
good scums tent to put vote in the middle.

I really don't know how to classificate people who played 2 or 3 games in this server. This is not ToS. So the votes on me aren't helping me find scum nor suspect anyone. That's why the disinterest.

[Vedith]

What is SvS?

Scum vs Scum

[Voted]

People who are trying to scum hunt
-TTTT
-RCEnigma

UNVOTE: maybe I'm over thinking and it's just an oversight kind of thing.

So, I kind of like voteds last post. But I sprung up as a counter push to Voteds wagon and it's got me thinking.

Well, you slighty look like a scum who is pretending to help town hunt scum.

Things like this definitely don't help your case.

There is no contradictions in these two posts. You ask questions, but I have a feeling the questions aren't samewhat pushing the conversation forward. And you are SE meaning you should be "good". I find it slighty suspectious, but I have a feeling its not enough to think you are scum.

[Voted]

I just have no idea how to scum hunt/read so I don't post much.

Lets help you then.
Do you think there is sameone who pushes sameone just to get him lynched rather than to find if he is scum or not? Who? Why do you think so - which posts made you believe it?
Is here sameone who is actively testing suspicious people if they are scum or not? Who? Why do you think so - which posts made you believe it?
Is here sameone who protects sameone else? Who? Why do you think so - which posts made you believe it?

[Datisi]

I've already said I'll ignore it. However, if you yourself aren't scum then 2 of the other 8 slots are. A random vote to start the day is more likely to land on town than scum and you haven't done anything to slim those numbers down so to think that your Rand vote landed on scum is poor reasoning.

It also doesn't reinforce wether I'm scum or not scum, just thank you aren't bothered to figure out if you are voting scum or town.

I think in your case I'm giving more leeway for a couple different reasons - new player, both games played you rolled scum I believe? So you may not have a strong base on how to scumhunt or what looks scummy when you aren't playing an informed slot.

I'll use my Voted read as an example. In addition to the things I've mentioned there are a couple things going on with him such as the contrast between his initial calm reaction when his wagon peaked and the survivalist push he made on salad afterwards. So 1, it could be seen as a playstyle difference (goes along with my theory of Voted +coaching, possible SE).

His disinterest in wether scum was voting him or not is +scum, scum!him would already know if this is true or not so may not be bothered with soring out motivations or intentions.

His unvote on salad when Vedith posted intent to hammer could go either way I guess. No one has really come to his defense so normally I would like to think he's town being left out by scum to cook but his pressure flipped onto me when I pushed further so I can't really ignore that and call it town.

From ToS:
bad scums tend to vote (town) either as 1st/ 2nd vote or as last votes
good scums tent to put vote in the middle.

I really don't know how to classificate people who played 2 or 3 games in this server. This is not ToS. So the votes on me aren't helping me find scum nor suspect anyone. That's why the disinterest.

But I have a feeling that, when looking at votes, who voted first, second or last is not all there is to it. Was anyone too pushy or tried to speed up the lynch? Maybe someone joined the wagon without any good reasoning? Things like that could help you suspect someone

[Vedith]

I'll get active from the weekend. Nothing to add now \o/

[ClearlyClarity]

Btw, @Clarity, what is your opinion on Salad, if I may ask? I'm kinda curious.

Still needs to post more.

Townreading him rn

[Saladman27]

I try to check more often but with my data plan being expired (yes I check on my phone) I can really post at least once a day.

[Miss Kobayashi Maru]

I feel like hardly anybody's interacted with me so far, and it's making me lonely

[Miss Kobayashi Maru]

So the votes on me aren't helping me find scum nor suspect anyone. That's why the disinterest.

I strongly disagree with this fwiw. Might just be a mindset difference or something, but your wagon really shouldn't be any different than anybody else's as far as helping you understand the game.

[Miss Kobayashi Maru]

Hey SEs, can any of you read one another? Cause I can't really read any of you.

[Vedith]

I normally get TTTT wrong.

[Datisi]

I feel like hardly anybody's interacted with me so far, and it's making me lonely

Hey, I feel the same way! Let's interact!

So... With all the Salad/Voted/RCE votes going on, you never changed your vote. Are you thinking about changing it? What made you stick?

[RCEnigma]

I think I have a decent amount of games with Vedith. He town tells extremely hard which unfortunately makes him a highly probably night 1 kill.

[TTTT]

Hey SEs, can any of you read one another? Cause I can't really read any of you.

sorry I got nothing really good to offer
if I'm alive with them later in the game I'll expend some energy on sorting them

[Vedith]

I've finished work for the weekend \o/
So. Who wants me to vote them?

[TTTT]

not I

[Vedith]

Okay, I don't think I want to vote in Datsi MKM TTTT and RCE.
And probably not CC.

[Micc]

Prodding thenavneet.

[Vedith]

Hi Micc

[thenavneet]

Don't vote me either Vedith

[thenavneet]

Or do. That might be fun