Fire on the Mountain [Over]

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I'm down to lynch either of the D's.

VOTE: Dannflor.

give me a quick case on what's wrong with Dannflor, RAS

I only skimmed through some ISO's but both you and him are 2 people that stood out to me as great lynches today. I'm going to be changing my vote because I dislike how passive and distant you've been, and how you ignored what I said in my previous posts completely despite it looking like you faked a comment on purpose. You knew Jingle had a "case" on you, and you acted like he didn't for a second. When I brought it up, you ignored it and responded to other things instead. It was obvious that you knew since you acknowledged it, it's not something you can just forget.

I ISO'd Dannflor quickly this morning before I placed my vote and I felt like he was fillering and playing abnormally passive in a few of his later posts, but I just went through it again, and I'm not getting that vibe anymore. I don't feel like my vote on him was that great, and I'm more comfortable voting you since I've actually had the chance to interact with you, and I haven't been liking the way you've been acting ever since I've joined the game.

VOTE: DDL.

There's no real reason for RAS to pull this vote change between these two posts that are six posts apart if he's scum w/ DDL. This vote change makes me think he's maybe even town, but on top of that

vedith | RAS | jingle possible but less so

RAS was pretty mean to me. He comes in all gung-ho, but that evaporates as soon as he sees that I couldn't be mislynched that day. Now it could be that he's a forceful player, but what happened was he just went on whatever wagon was the biggest, and that doesn't seem like the type of play with that sort of entrance

4905's big letters also kind of helped.

RAS is the only read from DDL's reads list DDL gives a real read on of any particular size

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alright

i'm calling xtoxm/ddl town for rn

let's call it a lynch pool of (RAS/mcqueen/Liger)

Wait what about me
Also why dolittle town

you just made an opportunistic vote and I didn't like it
also i'm not convinced you're town
but i don't wanna lynch you yet

I want you to push things first
i want to see real thoughts from you

[RadiantCowbells]

i take the opposite thing from that interaction that you do, enter

[MaxwellPuckett]

Clemency tries to push shoshin as his only activity and that's pretty scummy. I was fooled earlier by his Jake Peralta image, but no more. I thought the endphase of Maxwell vs Liger, Liger definitely looked more town. Also Maxwell didn't want to take too hard of a stance on me, and that's pretty scummy.

What abt this other post of particular size that dolittle made abt me

Did you forget me this quick eagle

[Dannflor]

I don't think that clears them Enter

[RadiantCowbells]

like longest read in a scum's readlist is often scum.

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i take the opposite thing from that interaction that you do, enter

ok

i'll go back a few pages and get some more context, then

Clemency tries to push shoshin as his only activity and that's pretty scummy. I was fooled earlier by his Jake Peralta image, but no more. I thought the endphase of Maxwell vs Liger, Liger definitely looked more town. Also Maxwell didn't want to take too hard of a stance on me, and that's pretty scummy.

What abt this other post of particular size that dolittle made abt me

Did you forget me this quick eagle

@rc do you read the tone in the post max quoted as different from the tone in teh one i quoted from DDL going into some sort of depth on his reads?

[MaxwellPuckett]

you just made an opportunistic vote and I didn't like it
also i'm not convinced you're town
but i don't wanna lynch you yet

I want you to push things first
i want to see real thoughts from you

What would be a vote that isnt opportunistic in a poe of like ~5 players
Im not abt to go after someone whos obvtown and theres a lot of obvtown

But ive been giving real thoughts this is the extent of it its not going to get better from here
Ive given reads on most of the list at this point and theyre recent is there a particular one you want to know more about

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like longest read in a scum's readlist is often scum.

I agree, but there's two of them and only one scum outside of DDL, and I thought DDL's post on Max was more damning than DDL's post on RAS

[RadiantCowbells]

i think it's a lot more DDL being scum indicative than saying anything about who DDL's partner is

[MaxwellPuckett]

@rc do you read the tone in the post max quoted as different from the tone in teh one i quoted from DDL going into some sort of depth on his reads?

Hey uh i know youre having a deep conversation with RC rn but this is the second time in a few minutes youve pushed my attempts to discuss reads with you to the side and it kinda hurts

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you just made an opportunistic vote and I didn't like it
also i'm not convinced you're town
but i don't wanna lynch you yet

I want you to push things first
i want to see real thoughts from you

What would be a vote that isnt opportunistic in a poe of like ~5 players
Im not abt to go after someone whos obvtown and theres a lot of obvtown

But ive been giving real thoughts this is the extent of it its not going to get better from here
Ive given reads on most of the list at this point and theyre recent is there a particular one you want to know more about

no i just want you to take lead on a push

i don't need you to lead town

i just want you to take lead on a push of any sort
even if it's against the grain a bit

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I'm real sorry Max

[Dannflor]

I don't think that type of shift from RAS is impossible if they were S/S, especially saying he came into the day ready to lynch either of the Ds

They may have reconsidered and realized I wasn't going to be an easy lynch or that RAS might even look suspicious sitting on me. DDL was also starting to get turned on by Jingle/Prince/others at that time. To quote NSG, "A scumteam caught early on will push each other down to stay afloat."

[MaxwellPuckett]

You know what nvm youre not an octopus you cant concenteate on every little thing at a time
Im sure youll answer when u get to it

[RadiantCowbells]

I think it's mcqueen/ddl?

[RadiantCowbells]

but aaaaaaaaaaa

that "lynching the Ds thing" from RAS is bothering me so much

[Xtoxm]

if this is scum!max he has improved his scum game significantly from what i remember
4 year meta sucks and all but i dont think i'll ever get over this townread

[Dannflor]

I think

mcqueen red flip clears xtoxm and tentatively max

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you just made an opportunistic vote and I didn't like it
also i'm not convinced you're town
but i don't wanna lynch you yet

I want you to push things first
i want to see real thoughts from you

What would be a vote that isnt opportunistic in a poe of like ~5 players
Im not abt to go after someone whos obvtown and theres a lot of obvtown

But ive been giving real thoughts this is the extent of it its not going to get better from here
Ive given reads on most of the list at this point and theyre recent is there a particular one you want to know more about

Naw, I didn't really see the context around the vote, I missed RC's PoE a couple posts before that I assume you based your vote off of?
It looked to me like RC hinted that he was pushing DDL and off that hint you decided to actually drop a vote. This feels like the wrong part of the game to be dropping sheep votes, particularly if you're trying to sheep someone and the person you're trying to sheep hasn't placed a vote yet. It felt really rather weird and out of place.

As far as people I want to know more about, talk to me about probabilities for scum between RAS/DDL/xtoxm/Liger/mcqueen

Just list the pairs that come to mind as most likely and the ones that come to mind as least likely

[RadiantCowbells]

I wonder if RAS/Dannflor is ever a thing

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Is there anything else you want me to respond to, Max?

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Dann is town.

[RadiantCowbells]

oh yeah

does anyone else remember the DT push on Alisae because he was suppsoed to be super good beacuse I sure do

[MaxwellPuckett]

if this is scum!max he has improved his scum game significantly from what i remember
4 year meta sucks and all but i dont think i'll ever get over this townread

I decided Im not lynching you either like youre literally the only person who cares abt the game ur referencing and wants to use it to read me when u could easily easily leave me to be lynched in endgame which is what i found a likely thing to happen