Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Liger_Zero]

Did you read the last few pages?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: mcqueen

don't think my reasons for unvoting were very good either way

[Enter]

radiant
remember when you called me scum in giphy?

This game is pretty funny.

just food for thought
also I pointed out other strange mindset changes, but watch this:

You guys are obsessed with your townblock.

mcqueen/Liger feels like too easy of a solve.

mcqueen is probably town. What does that do for your solve?

mcqueen is probably town

Okay, now I get to ask: Why?

I actually don't have a reason. And you can scumread me for that if you want.

I am contributing to stopping you three from this group think mentality you have going on which i am sure will blow up in all of your faces but this is what happened with Buj. But sure, just write me off if you want.

I will admit mcqueen freakout on eagle seemed very overdone. But I don't want to be on this consensus that mcqueen is scum. Think its going to cause another mislynch.

I am leaning heavily that scum are in the "townblock". Gonna be fun to have my head chewed of for that. That is a good explanation for why no ignition at least, not sure why you want to have so many people around that people see as locktown other than to rely on the paranoia that festers when you have less people you can lynch to work with.

Or maybe the locktown group is so bad that scum just don't care to kill them yet and are relying on their terrible lynches.

I will admit mcqueen freakout on eagle seemed very overdone. But I don't want to be on this consensus that mcqueen is scum. Think its going to cause another mislynch.

I'm guessing you think that because yesterday went poorly and you're leery of too-easy consensuses.

Who else is scum? Is Max still your only scum read?

Max is my only scumread. But I think the last scum outside of that is in the townblock but i have no clue who.
Maybe its Eagle. Kind of doubt it, but idk.

I almost think we should lynch players that we think the scum would douse because that lessens the amount that they can potentially kill and we can potentially get a scum that was able to hide themselves very well.

I don't know if that is brilliant or moronic but it can stall out a scum win instead of potential mislynching players that scum have no interest in dousing.

VOTE: Reiuji Utsuho

I would assume this person is doused if they aren't scum and seem the most like scum in the townblock.

liger/mcqueen are actually playing to a scum agenda right now

That seems to be the narrative going right now, but I think you will find its just a tribal mindset that is being pushed forward by you and others.

VOTE: McQueen

my leaders leader commands!

UNVOTE:

the king commands

McQueen has basically called like 6 people scum in probably the last day. He freaks out at one person calls them scum. Then rinse and repeat. I can't keep track of them all.

VOTE: McQueen

Sheeppppp me. I have the best reads. I am god at this game.

And throughout 19X - 204 enter repeatedly posts the same shit how liger and me are scum. Like his narrative is just repeating that over and over. Hes not doing much else other than a few relatively useless interactions with others, his narrative of me/liger always returns. Its sad how little effort he’s actually putting in and getting away with it

I don't think its low effort. But it is definitely like he is a broken record.

i feel like he genuinely believes me and Liger or scum. I can’t speak for Liger, but the fact that his narrative hasn’t been swayed at ALL on me all day and I of course know he’s wrong doesn’t sit well with me

His mind isn't opened to being changed. He is in his belief system.

I have a horrible time reading people who are on the defensive. My natural reaction is to scumread them for being so defensive. Want to see less defensive McQueen.

[Liger_Zero]

I think I have become obsessed with the townblock which has a lot of irony to it.

[Enter]

Specifically
"you guys are obsessed with your town block"
"mcqueen is probably town"
"scum are in the town block"
"eagle/rei is last scum w/ max"
"vote mcqueen"
"mcqueen has called a lot of people scum i can't even keep track anymore"
"sheep me on mcqueen"
*agrees w/ mcqueen in that I'm probably wrong on mcqueen*

[Jingle]

In more important news, Shazam was decent and Pet Sematary was a strictly worse remake with 100% less Ramones.

[Liger_Zero]

Specifically
"you guys are obsessed with your town block"
"mcqueen is probably town"
"scum are in the town block"
"eagle/rei is last scum w/ max"
"vote mcqueen"
"mcqueen has called a lot of people scum i can't even keep track anymore"
"sheep me on mcqueen"
*agrees w/ mcqueen in that I'm probably wrong on mcqueen*

I think all these things make sense to you. But to people like me you just stated random stuff and cobbled together and say they make a point.

Also the last point is in contention. Wasn't agreeing with McQueen he was wrong him. Was agreeing with him that your approach is broken record.

[Liger_Zero]

Advice for formatting your scumreads: If you are going to go through bullet points of posts and say that makes a person scum, it helps to lay out some kind of reasoning/narrative the person is doing in said posts. For example. I will make your scum case for you.

Ill go through each posts as:
1) Liger was obsessing with town block, and was trying to undermine it. Scum equity.
2) States McQueen is town to diminish the support on him. Scum equity.
3) Again is trying to break up the town block. Scum equity
4) Trying to spread doubt on Eagle/Rei. Scum equity
5) Now is bussing an ally as he sees the momentum shift. Scum equity.
6) Is saying McQueen is scum for things he has done. Hypocritical and trying to gain town points. Scum equity.
7) Trying to get points for flipping ally by pushing on ally. Scum equity
8) Tries to discredit me. Scum equity.


Now that I have reasons behind this, I can tell a story of what liger is doing and how that makes him scum.

[Liger_Zero]

Your honor. If it pleases the court, I want to tell everyone a story.

Of an evil evil person. Who tried to go against our little community and would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for the fine detective work of mr Enter.

You see, it all began when a liger noticed that he couldn't achieve his goals with our tight knit community together. So he had to do things in order to first appear trustworthy to us, but also undermine our trust in each other in order to break it apart. He would spread messages to people saying that Eagle and Rei weren't as trustworthy as we should see them. He would defend others when it was most convenient and most reasonable to do so. As soon as he saw it wasn't convenient, he would drop that and turn around to gain the support of this community but not without still trying to undermine it while doing so. You see, he is a mastermind of confusion and deliberately trying to break this town apart. Now I say to the court, is this what we believe is an actual, innocent and law abiding citizen would do?

I rest my case.

[Enter]

Ha. Thank you, Liger, I'm legitimately grateful for the input, but I'm more than capable of appealing to town when I need to, I think the method I'm using right now gets the message across that I need to get across at this point in time.

[Enter]

And tbh, it's quite possible that I did just actually drop a list of quotes and my own interpretations that is helpful to literally no one but me, but I think I'd rather do that and have no one understand than use my old style
While it's flashier, I'm more of a condescending ass, telling people who to vote when and where and why and I'm more likely to end up in death tunnels that are helpful to legitimately no one. I find myself stuck in a mindset where I think I'm better than everyone else and this results in terrible play on my part. I think I've found significantly more success in proposing my thoughts as my raw interpretations w/ as little change as possible and allowing people to work it out for themselves.

[mcqueen]

mcqueen

why haven't you mentioned DDL at all

he’s irrelevant

honestly i wanted to call him town earlier but i can see him as scum. The only reason i dont just throw out a read AT THIS POINT is because when i die and flip green i’d rather my real thoughts be out there.

there’s just so many combos for a scumteam right now, it’s quite ridiculous,
RC is never cleared
Enter could be
Ddl could be
Xtoxm still could be
Max could be
Liger could be

That pool contains both scum.

[mcqueen]

RC
I want you to note
wagon resistance
right now
please
also note
that these people are calling me scum
remember when you said you liked the days when you could tell when someone's push on you was fake, because you had no record and there was no reason for people to be paranoia scumreading you?
note that these players, mcqueen especially, haven't really played w/ me at all. he has no idea who i am. use that
watch mcqueen, and also his interactions w/ me especially end of day yesterday when i want to lynch liger to right after I vote buj
does it fascinate you that liger/mcqueen are the only two wagons with any real resistance?
if you trust me at all, at any point in this game, trust me to tell you you were right on mcqeen and on liger earlier. the problem is they're trying to distract you w/ the fact that there's v real saudade this game in xtoxm
i don't even care if you lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong on either of them, but gimme this one shot if I get any respect at all for the games we've finished together
I'm not even asking for credit for it, I'm just asking you to not drag this out and let them give you this crap over me because you'll regret it later if you don't lynch in (mcqueen/liger) today

Enter I played with you in Prey Mafia.....

[or]

I still think its Max!

[Enter]

You haven't really played with me before. I did nothing in prey, I barely participated in the one day I was a part of.

[Dannflor]

RC is never cleared
Enter could be
Ddl could be
Xtoxm still could be
Max could be
Liger could be

That pool contains both scum.

Is everyone else more or less a town read?

[mcqueen]

RC is never cleared
Enter could be
Ddl could be
Xtoxm still could be
Max could be
Liger could be

That pool contains both scum.

Is everyone else more or less a town read?

pretty much

[Enter]

mcqueen is L-3

Ank, pls vote mcqueen

[Enter]

If your name is on the list you're not voting mcqueen (afaik) and you should be.

Ankamius

RAS
Reiuji Utsuho


Jingle

or
Vedith


Xtoxm
Creature

[Ankamius]

am I going to need to read the last 15 pages

[or]

no

[or]

VOTE: mcqueen

[Ankamius]

cool then I won't bother

VOTE: mcqueen

[or]

tbh I am scare about 2 in {Dann RC Max} scum team

[Dannflor]

RC is never cleared
Enter could be
Ddl could be
Xtoxm still could be
Max could be
Liger could be

That pool contains both scum.

Is everyone else more or less a town read?

pretty much

Thoughts on Alisae/RAS slot specifically?