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[wilky]

Take notes of the current leading wagons if wilky flips scum at some point

He’s defending someone by deflecting or he wants to be town read himself for the lack of content.

Again isnt this literally how I played in the newbie game where I was town?

[insomnia]

Don’t use meta to build a case friend, wise words

[Creature]

Hello from the otter side

[wilky]

This whole case on insomnia started after his mass claim thing. Mass claiming is stupid for town. I don't think scum!insomnia pushes that.
However, what I got out of his massclaim push is the reactions from wilky and Sheldon.
Suggesting massclaim especially on D1 gives scum a perfect out to put pressure on insomnia.

So that leads me to believe scum is in wilky andor Sheldon.

I feel fine about finally placing a vote.

VOTE: Wilky

My case doesn't include the mass claim though lol

I said that's where the case started.

U got Sheldons views on the mass claim thing, I tried to discuss things with insomnia who has been wholly stand offish from the start. It's unfortunate timing that this is when both me and Insomnia are available but it's definitely not my case on him at all

[Macabre]

This rabbit is strange, but I am not sure of the fishes guilt. Indecision overtakes me!

[insomnia]

Like how do you even expect me to have good reads when I’m being constantly pushed

It’s way easier to form reads when people aren’t on your ass and you can have an objective opinion

I’ll suck this lobby as long as I’m being tunneled

[Macabre]

This song of destruction must end for us to find any peace. Yes. The final act!

VOTE: Carmen

[insomnia]

This whole case on insomnia started after his mass claim thing. Mass claiming is stupid for town. I don't think scum!insomnia pushes that.
However, what I got out of his massclaim push is the reactions from wilky and Sheldon.
Suggesting massclaim especially on D1 gives scum a perfect out to put pressure on insomnia.

So that leads me to believe scum is in wilky andor Sheldon.

I feel fine about finally placing a vote.

VOTE: Wilky

My case doesn't include the mass claim though lol

I said that's where the case started.

U got Sheldons views on the mass claim thing, I tried to discuss things with insomnia who has been wholly stand offish from the start. It's unfortunate timing that this is when both me and Insomnia are available but it's definitely not my case on him at all

What is it then

[wilky]

You're kidding right? It's based on the backtracking, lies and not being willing to work with people

[insomnia]

I wouldn’t have this conversation with you if I weren’t willing to cooperate

You are the one accusing me and that started with “Work with me” when in reality you want me to get lynched

So..?

[wilky]

I wouldn’t have this conversation with you if I weren’t willing to cooperate

You are the one accusing me and that started with “Work with me” when in reality you want me to get lynched

So..?

Because you haven't actually worked with me to change your mind. You have literally only backtracked and lied your way through this.

I didn't make my own mind up you made it up for me

[insomnia]

Can you define cooperation for me, I don’t remeber it being : Vote the person that you want to cooperate with, make a scum case against them and when they are taking a 1v1 because you accused them, accuse them further by saying THEY don’t want to cooperate

[wilky]

Can you define cooperation for me, I don’t remeber it being : Vote the person that you want to cooperate with, make a scum case against them and when they are taking a 1v1 because you accused them, accuse them further by saying THEY don’t want to cooperate

Right at the start you said to come back to you at L-1. You then told me your mind hasnt changed on BEF but your reasons for stating you townread him are contradictory.

I think cooperation is being honest with one another and putting all cards on the table which you haven't done.

[insomnia]

Your intention was never to cooperate, stop selling bs.

Taking the position of the accuser is not cooperating. If you wanted me to cooperate maybe you should’ve went for a more friendly approach.

[insomnia]

Can you define cooperation for me, I don’t remeber it being : Vote the person that you want to cooperate with, make a scum case against them and when they are taking a 1v1 because you accused them, accuse them further by saying THEY don’t want to cooperate

Right at the start you said to come back to you at L-1. You then told me your mind hasnt changed on BEF but your reasons for stating you townread him are contradictory.

I think cooperation is being honest with one another and putting all cards on the table which you haven't done.

I admitted I scum read BEF after saying I’m town

I did put everything on the table

And now you’re using that “everything” to accuse me

[insomnia]

Can you define cooperation for me, I don’t remeber it being : Vote the person that you want to cooperate with, make a scum case against them and when they are taking a 1v1 because you accused them, accuse them further by saying THEY don’t want to cooperate

Right at the start you said to come back to you at L-1. You then told me your mind hasnt changed on BEF but your reasons for stating you townread him are contradictory.

I think cooperation is being honest with one another and putting all cards on the table which you haven't done.

I admitted I scum read BEF after saying I town read him

I did put everything on the table

And now you’re using that “everything” to accuse me

Ebwop

[insomnia]

VOTE: Wilky

Let’s “cooperate”

[wilky]

Hol’ up two newbies leading the game isn’t good I’ll wait for thoughts

I am serious about mass claim though to be completely honest

This is going to be one of the games where town lynches town if we don’t give roles

Golly gosh this is concerning

What’s so concerning about it?

I think the fact you cant see what's concerning about it is even more concerning. If you're town you gotta think about what would happen in the situation of a d1 mass claim

@Insomnia can you provide any benefits on a d1 mass claim? I can think of 1 but the 1 benefit is far beaten by the many flaws.

That's a good spot actually. Insomnia where did that U-turn stem from?

Insomnias vote is still on a town read aswell why is that?

VOTE: Insomnia

I told you. Everyone was saying my push was garbage, nobody backed me up on it.

If townies don’t see what I see then me tunneling BEF is unproductive and it lets scum slip under the radar. It would be an anti-town thing for me to keep tunneling BEF because I am the most active person in here. Imagine having a 1v1 with someone that has 40 posts per day on average. People can grab some popcorn and scum can chill in PT scum hunting prs

That doesn't = Town!BEF though does it? It just means you would be scum reading someone that others are reading as town.

By all means a tunnel could be avoided but scum are more likely to fall in line than town.

BEF was also lead wagon at one point

Pm me when I get at L-1

Is this you saying that you aren't willing to discuss?

These were my first posts in the beginning of this conversation with insomnia i was asking general questions trying to gain an understanding on his thoughts. According to him this is unfriendly. And as you can also see the vote came because he was voting his town read then the 1v1 ensued afterwards.

[Creature]

This is going too fast...

[wilky]

This is going too fast...

Join in Creature, where's your thoughts at just now?

[Creature]

Dunno still Shiidaji is scum

[wilky]

Dunno still Shiidaji is scum

Why do you read shi as scum? I just iso'd them and they are relatively townie to me

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Insomnia has said he town read BEF when he actually scum read him but has been quite open about the reasons for that.
He also put forward a day 1 mass claim.

I think insomnia just presses 'submit' before fully engaging his brain.

[insomnia]

Yeah I’m 1 iq

[insomnia]

E=mc^2 OwO