Newbie 1924 - Game Over

[Vedith]

I don't think there's anything that I will find useful within the next 3 days.
At this point the thread just staggers anyway.

The content you see isn't content I see sadly.

[TTTT]

I agree
kill it with fire

[thenavneet]

Prod dodge placeholder

Sorry fam. Stuff's been crazy IRL for me. I DO want to play tho so give me till end of day today to post something useful.

[RCEnigma]

I had just typed up the hammer. I'll give it till my shift starts.

[thenavneet]

I had just typed up the hammer. I'll give it till my shift starts.

How long is that

[RCEnigma]

8 hours.

[thenavneet]

Awesome ty

[TTTT]

tick tock

[TTTT]

I'm just gonna say...
every time a newbie claims and says VT
I say welp if they're scum their partner is a newbie too
cuz an experienced partner would tell them to fakeclaim to out a PR
and I'm sticking to that theory until it's proven wrong

[TTTT]

and now I realize that post is gonna make town!RCE or town!Vedith
go hmmmmm if voted flips red

[Voted]

Perheps they told me to claim VT to make you think that.

[Voted]

For future games: mafia can talk together during day phase?

[TTTT]

lol

[Voted]

I'm bummed that none of the newbies had newbscum intros
crossing my fingers for MafiaCiv!

Would love to know before getting lynched.

[Vedith]

Voted claim are PR, let's not post in our scum thread for a little bit.
Just be like yeah I was tested you all.

[Vedith]

Wrong thread

[Vedith]

My grammar hurts even me.

[TTTT]

I dunno
it's hard to explain
some people will say TTTT just SRs anybody for saying "hey guys!" in their intro post
but that's actually just one possible indicator
it's more a tone read than anything
newbscum usually just don't seem very relaxed
and their first posts are forced
lemme go find some examples...

[TTTT]

Voted claim are PR, let's not post in our scum thread for a little bit.
Just be like yeah I was tested you all.

when you fuck up a fake PT post

[Vedith]

:<

[Voted]

And, how would SE tell me to claim a PR?

[TTTT]

voted who is scum?

[thenavneet]

I'll get in some analyses about ISOs. Starting with Voted because well why not.
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Has voted for lynching VOTE: Saladman27.

Chances are you don't like me joining the wagoon against Saladman. I did it because I hope it could work as a catalyst and that it would increase the frequency of messages in this thread. Didn't work.

This came across as completely genuine to me and had me leaning town on Voted at the time.
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@Saladman
They are very eager to lynch me and I don't like it. My only survival chance is to find sameone scummier than me. You haven't posted anything relevant yet, so I will try to push you to see if you don't slid. I haven't done samething similar before and I am sorry if I overdo it / mess it up.

Well salad is voting me and I'm voting you. What do you think of that? Why do you think I'm still scumreading you? If you were in my shoes do you think you would be reading your slot as town?

Salad is random voting you so it has no weight. You are voting me either because you think that I am scum or because you want to test me. Or both.

I don't know why everyone scum reads me. In every game. Would love to know. Probably because of my inability to make constructive early in game and my strange sense of humour.

The tone of the posts changed a bit to a woe-is-me attitude. Not necessarily AI but I could see it being a newbscum asking for his scum tells so that he doesn't repeat them in the future.
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UNVOTE: unvote

You guys have a dangerous style of humour, you know this?

This was an Unvote of salad I believe. But it was never explained. This is the first genuine red flag for me.
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I just have no idea how to scum hunt/read so I don't post much.

Lets help you then.
Do you think there is sameone who pushes sameone just to get him lynched rather than to find if he is scum or not? Who? Why do you think so - which posts made you believe it?
Is here sameone who is actively testing suspicious people if they are scum or not? Who? Why do you think so - which posts made you believe it?
Is here sameone who protects sameone else? Who? Why do you think so - which posts made you believe it?

Interesting interaction here. While it is easy to think this is one scum helping other scum to post more and giving him pointers, Voted's posts up to that point don't really give me the confidence that this is how he would handle the situation. So for now I will say Voted and Saladman are not the scum team. Curious to see if saladman ever answered these.
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20-35ish
but the number of pages are less important than the interactions
that we can go back and see later

if salad flips town where do we go from there?

If both, me and Salad are town (what I think is truth),

than datisi and thenavneet have a huge problem for pushing against Salad

(day 1 - lynch Salad, day 2 - lynch me, that would be a really nice start for scum). With pushing I don't mean making him post more, but making him sus, lynched.

This post assumes that I would push against Voted if Salad flips town which IDK where he got that from.
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VOTE: thenavneet
Any ideas about my potential scum buddy?
Any ideas about Salad's potential scum buddy? Still thinking its RCE? Any other ideas?

No I don't think it's RCE. And I didn't think of you as scum when you posted this. Still don't really. As for saladman's potential scum buddy, that's a good question. I don''t think it's you. I don't think it's Datisi just based on current VC. If I had to guess right now based on VC, I would say it's MKM or CC. But I will get back to this more after their ISOs
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Basically from that ISO I don't see anything egregiously scummy. If Voted does flip scum, I'd look at CC, Datisi or maybe Vedith for potential scum partners but that's going purely off of current VC without looking at the timing of the posts and such so this pool is subject to change. While there IS some indication that it could be Voted and Salad as the scum team (most notably Voted's unvote of Salad without any real reason) I don't think it's enough to convince me.

[TTTT]

I'm bummed that none of the newbies had newbscum intros
crossing my fingers for MafiaCiv!

Would love to know before getting lynched.

1915 - NotMySpamAccount with a fake "I'm such a newbie post" and his partner Salami entering the game with a greeting to the game and an apology, followed by forced reads
1917 - chennis' first two posts look way too concerned with how others view him
1919 - Screamingnoodle trying too hard to look relaxed
1923 - witchaven has several forced early posts (35 is the most fake looking of them)

so it's largely tonal early on
at least for me

[TTTT]

Did you roll Scum again Navneet?

Vedith
give me a quick overview of your scum-game(s) with nav plz