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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:57 am

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Inferno390(4)-RadiantCowbells, NotAnAxehole, John Pierce Gantt, Vorkuta
John Pierce Gantt(2)-davesaz, RuiRui
NotAnAxehole(2)-Inferno390, Egix96
RadiantCowbells(1)-themilkcartonkid
Skellen(1)-ErzaScarlet
ErzaScarlet(1)-Tchill13


Not voting: chennisden, Skellen

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch or no lynch.


Deadline is (expired on 2019-04-22 00:00:00)
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:57 am

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In post 266, Tchill13 wrote:Seems like axe and RC really tried to take control of the game with their push on inferno and then used ego to put those down who didn't see the "obv scum".
I think this is a bit too over-generalized view of the game. RC really only called one other person Mafia (you), and Axe stated very clearly that many of his reads were achieved via process of elimination.
In post 267, Tchill13 wrote:RC sticks his neck out FIRST. axehole is right behind him after getting a few votes on himself and is JUST AS confident as RC. it's odd...

Neither player should be that confident. Then both agree that the only player pointing out they shouldn't be that confident that early is scum.

(when you result to "he's obv scum" after getting pressed for more explanation when you've only explained it once... Yeah, not a whole lot of reason there)
I, too, am very confident on my Inferno Mafia read. I just happen to list out my reasons.
In post 269, Tchill13 wrote:Also is Stefan the only person axe has given a TR with not so good justification? Is that the plan? Tell everyone inferno is obv scum. Call anyone scum who opposes that theory then call everyone else town so you can lynch the opposed?
Again, overly generalized.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:58 am

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So I blinked and this happened.
Let me re-read a few things and I'll decide whether or not there's something really fishy going on here.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 274, Tchill13 wrote:Axe is coming off as egotistical, refuses to go in depth about reads, scoffs at those who don't see how obvious things are and has handed RC a hard TR due to (well its a bad look if inferno flips town which would keep RC from doing this, regardless of how confident RC is in his own reads) then has proceeded to hand TR's out among others who fit the narrative based on PoE and mostly gut read material.
Also I think this post lacks a conclusion.
Does this make Axe town or Mafia?
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:04 am

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I'll have to ISO you JPG. sorry for kinda just glancing at your posts.

I disagree with the overly generalized statements because you're essentially discrediting my points with one word but OK.

Makes axe mafia in most cases.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:11 am

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Meanwhile, I am very sad that I am being called JPG despite this:
In post 18, John Pierce Gantt wrote:Greetings. If my name is too long for you to type, you may call me JP Gantt or just JP.
Just don't call me JPG because I am a real life human being, not some pixelated piece of art.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:12 am

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In post 218, John Pierce Gantt wrote:It's kinda funny because people are going "RC I don't believe you" and yet
none
of them bothered to respond to what I said about Inferno.
This is true mostly because I got caught up in what axe/RC were saying to give too much importance to the rest of the thread.

John pierce Gantt aka jp Gantt aka jp has his head on straight, makes good points. I'm fine with an inferno lynch today.

(I typed JPG before the post edit lol.)
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:14 am

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I'd be very surprised if it was as easy as inferno and erza being scum together but we will see I guess.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:25 am

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In post 270, Tchill13 wrote:Town reading RC because he knows it'll bite him if inferno flips town IS NOT a good idea.

There's one thing that consistently makes players throw caution to the wind here and its ego. Yes I believe rc is egotistical enough as town to KNOW he's caught scum before page 5, truly believe it, then still be wrong about it.
This is very true. I'll make sure to give Cowbells the stinkeye if Inferno flips town.
In post 272, Tchill13 wrote: Yeah that game literally shouldn't count in my meta lol. Got super busy it was an abysmal effort. Don't TR me just because I'm not lurking. If you want to use meta you need to actually go read a few of my games. Of course I don't use meta at all because I'm too lasy to do that.
Fair enough I guess. I'll admit, I'm also too lazy to ISO-dive people I haven't played with before - I find meta from games that I was actually in to be much more useful.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:29 am

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Day 2 is going to be very interesting.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:54 am

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In post 283, Egix96 wrote:This is very true. I'll make sure to give Cowbells the stinkeye if Inferno flips town.
What is your stance on Inferno?
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:56 am

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Any idea on a 3rd scum JPG? Because your erza case caught my eye and I liked it.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:08 am

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In post 286, Tchill13 wrote:Any idea on a 3rd scum JPG? Because your erza case caught my eye and I liked it.
This is funny, because that Erza "case" was the one that I did not write any explanation about.

Anyway, I don't know yet. I have some potential candidates, but they are not solid at all.

With that said,
In post 281, Tchill13 wrote:I'm fine with an inferno lynch today.
Then you should vote Inferno too.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:17 am

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VOTE: inferno
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:22 am

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In post 285, John Pierce Gantt wrote:
In post 283, Egix96 wrote:This is very true. I'll make sure to give Cowbells the stinkeye if Inferno flips town.
What is your stance on Inferno?
I'm still leaning town on him. I'm not convinced that Inferno accusing Axe of being "biased" is a slip that spews him town - poor choice of terminology maybe, but I doubt that it's a scumslip.

Also his string of posts from to doesn't read to me like scum who's in anti-spew mode.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 289, Egix96 wrote:poor choice of terminology
I doubt it, because

a) Inferno was very clear on his trajectory, and it was clearly about Axe being biased.
b) Inferno was very heavy on using various terminologies. I doubt someone who likes using heavy terms will make a poor choice of one.

My conjecture on this is that Inferno got caught up on discrediting Axe so much that he didn't think through what he was posting.
In post 289, Egix96 wrote:Also his string of posts from 219 to 223 doesn't read to me like scum who's in anti-spew mode.
219-222, maybe, although I can see both ways.
223 is literally mudslinging, however.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am

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To elaborate on 219-222 being seen both ways, Mafia in that situation would be desperate enough to look like town as much as possible to get out of a lynch. Town would do that too, with exactly the same reason sometimes.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:54 am

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Man

UNVOTE:

I just wanted juicy reactions I didn't want to make him replace out
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:55 am

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In post 275, Nero Cain wrote:
Inferno390(4)-RadiantCowbells, NotAnAxehole, John Pierce Gantt, Vorkuta
John Pierce Gantt(2)-davesaz, RuiRui
NotAnAxehole(2)-Inferno390, Egix96
RadiantCowbells(1)-themilkcartonkid
Skellen(1)-ErzaScarlet
ErzaScarlet(1)-Tchill13


Not voting: chennisden, Skellen

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch or no lynch.


Deadline is (expired on 2019-04-22 00:00:00)
Nero can you ask inferno to come back
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:20 am

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VOTE: tchill13

I townread inferno btw

Think this read as scum with his hands in the cookie jar

Think davesaz immediate concern about me bussing may be town
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:23 am

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Well I figured that you were doing something like that but I do think Inferno is Mafia so you'll have to explain it to me a bit about it.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:23 am

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Believe it or not

His reaction if he were scum would be a lot scummier
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 am

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Can you visualize that a bit for me?
Because I find it hard to believe.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 am

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I mean, Tchill13 is scum, but I don't see why we don't lynch the inferno slot?
This team is ruining my life!
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:34 am

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If you agree tchill13 is scum why not lynch them lol
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