My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Mafia (Game Over)

[PenguinPower]

Hello everybody I will now be catching up. Not that any of you care but you're gonna read it anyway

Not if it's a wall post.

I'll just scum read you for it.

[SleepyKrew]

I finally finished wrestlemania so I'll catch up on this tonight

[MariaR]

don't really feel like explaining the townreads atm.

See to me this feels like you’re faking all those townreads because I have a townread on 2 people? One of them isn’t even that strong. I don’t think a lot of people are town telling at the moment so when you come out here with a lot of these townreads and then go ‘I don’t want to explain them.’ to me that’s just weird.

I also think bins believes her case on Elsa/Jay, but the stuff they're scumreading Elsa for are just things Elsa does. It's NAI

I mean...……………….. that's pretty much what I said, that I don't see a difference between Elsa scum/town in terms of effort and posted content

but the response to my vote wasn't town, and i'm gonna stick here

I feel like there are much much better votes then Elsa. I see the post you’re talking about but to me that’s just a bad post. Not bad as in scummy but just bad. I think anyone can come up with better than that. So just basing a scumread on that is blah.

sometimes I wish I was secretly evil, because so many people are calling me friendly rn, it would be so easy to take out a knife and stab them all in the back : )

See Bins you can just become me and stab them all in the back anyway.

I can see where you're coming from on town is more likely to call out 'scumslips' (at least I agree to an extent early game) but I dislike the way zor keeps pushing this. Meta is gross and you should know better Ep

wait for real? have you always hated meta? or have you sold out to Big Tripod ever since becoming a green?

I don’t hate meta (I legit used it in one of my own posts) I just dislike when people use it as the main reason for a read. I feel like your main reason on a read on a person should always be about the game they’re in right now. If you have meta as a supporting factor that’s fine, but never as your only factor.

[MariaR]

VOTE: T-Bone
I think this is a genuinely good place to start a wagon? thoughts?

I’m not really worried about T-bone right now. He hasn’t made any waves but I’m pretty confident that I’ll be able to have a solid read on him the more he posts. The last time I played with him we basically had a hard tr on each other for the whole game and we were both town. What posts make you want to vote him?

Baezu - 4 (zoraster, Papa Zito, implosion, PenguinPower)

I didn’t even know this was a wagon. I think I remember asking about it, but I don’t understand

why

it’s a wagon. Baezus posting isn’t bad? Then again I think zor Papa and implo can all be scum so shrug.

Am I dumb or this post a contradiction? You said that you just thought it and posted it.I believe that because that’s what most people like you do. But if that’s the case can’t scum you bring it up because you just thought of it and posted it? The obvious answer is yes and if the answer is yes why is it so impossible for zor to have this outlook.

ok that's valid (though something I probably would have rather heard from Zor himself rather than fluffposting but whatever)

I think that to actually consider the post and still view it as wolfy you need to kind of stand on your head tbh like do you think it's more likely I just brought it up because it was on my mind or it was an intentional evil sneaky scum positioning play!!! like I guess I don't think that part of my post is AI at all

I think you could’ve posted it just for like. The sake of posting because lol the worst. But I don’t even like this line of conversation because it feels pointless to me. You’re not gonna get lynched over a ‘scumslip’ (and if you are scum I don’t even consider it a slip) you’ll get lynched over other stuff so yeah.

IT ISN'T A POLICY LYNCH BUT IT ISN'T A BAD LYNCH CONSIDERING THEIR ISO

It's the definition of a policy lynch considering their ISO.

Move on.

I find it interesting that PP is trying to call Elsa a policy lynch when Bins has very clearly stated reasoning that makes it clearly not a policy lynch. The reaction after Bins explained is bad too.

Elsas posting on page 12 makes them town to me. It's clearly not doing them any favors but Elsa is still being Elsa. If they were scum I feel like they'd try to switch up the game a little (or play w/e you wanna call it)

[MariaR]

fwiw EP my scumgame has expanded a lot since American Presidents Mafia so I probably wouldn't lean too heavily on that for like, meta tells and I'm a bit better at hiding my intentions these days

mindset tells are legit tho so lmk if there's anything you want to jam about

Is this… a town tell? In this game?!?!? Holy shit mom get the camera.

I really hate #325 though. "I believe in meta and you should too...but please ignore this particular game when it comes to meta reading me kthxbye"

Meta is trash, but man, if you're gonna advocate for it and or use it, I think you have to be all in. It seems weird to me that you can both think meta is valid but then also decide where it is and isn't valid.

Oh, you’re just gonna love my posting then T-bone. We’ll get along just fine.

For me, I think manipulation is the biggest scum tool, and that's generally what I look for. I don't think every post Elsa has made indicates she is scum. I think her over the top "if you lynch me you'll be sorry" is an attempt to subvert expectations. IE that's a scumtell, everyone knows it's a scumtell, I'm gonna do it because people will think I wouldn't be so obviously scum here." If it was a one off comment, then I wouldn't give it much thought. But that she did it, I called her on it, she continues to do it, and I'm the only one who cares, tells me this is a deliberate choice by her to manipulate people's read and expectations of her.

The thing is as you said. Everyone knows (or at least acts like) saying stuff along the lines of: ‘if you lynch me you’ll be sorry’ is a scummy action. Because it’s fear mongering. So Elsas last play as scum (if we assume Elsa is scum) is that we’d not lynch them and just back off because of a random role they could be? When has that ever worked? The answer is basically never. Elsas play isn’t doing them any favors but the key here is it’s consistent and to me, that feels like town.

Someone help me get into this game tia

Was your first vote serious/did you just jump on?
2) How much of the game if any have you seriously read
3) Iso Bae/Elsa/The worst you’ll get a good idea of the game state and who’s the lynch options (in my eyes rn at least)

WowI'm all caught up and feel like I've solved nothing but making everyone a sr.
Guess I'll just vote hop until I get a lynch done eh? Keep my options open B)

VOTE: MariaR

Sorry TBone bby but I can't not vote this.

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Something wrong gify?

[MariaR]

I also felt it when she caught up and was completely disengaged from not having confident reads

I mean...that's not really what she said.

WowI'm all caught up and feel like I've solved nothing but making everyone a sr.

I didn't reread this, that's just the way I ~sensed~ her lack of presence

having everyone as a sr is like the definition of not having confident reads imo

You’re mostly wrong. It’s not that I’m not confident it’s that I do feel a lot of people aren’t town telling and I would vote a lot of people. To me, it wasn’t that I was like ‘oh I’m unsure’ it’s. “Your posting is bad.” Obviously, I am wrong in some places but I don’t think focusing on where I’m wrong is a good idea right now

Real talk though

WowI'm all caught up and feel like I've solved nothing but making everyone a sr.
Guess I'll just vote hop until I get a lynch done eh? Keep my options open B)

Why are we tolerating this

Why are you talking like the stance I took is so outlandishly scummy? You haven’t read much of the game (I assume) so I’m confused as to why you’re like saying everyone should be voting me for my post when you don’t even have the proper knowledge to make a judgment on that post. Like if you read the game then thought a ton of people were towny and thought my stance was dumb and scummy? Fine fair. But you didn’t do that so…

That’s an awkward stance to take. I think Bins is scum.

VOTE: Bins

Wat

but now that you're making me think about it more -- even though i wasn't really thinking of that post from a meta perspective, i do think that worst's particular response in that post could be like, him being scum and having just heard from me about what i think about his confrontational and stubborn scumplay and consciously subverting that so wow maybe meta is trash

Has the worst scum game turned god tier while I was away? Because last time I played with scum him his scumgame was laughably bad.

what about my posts are good

I’m not kidding when I say this is the best post Reck has made.

Hello everybody I will now be catching up. Not that any of you care but you're gonna read it anyway

Not if it's a wall post.

I'll just scum read you for it.

HIT ME WITH THAT SCUMREAD BABY I’M READY

[MariaR]

VOTE: implosion

[PenguinPower]

HIT ME WITH THAT SCUMREAD BABY I’M READY

I mean...I'm not going to hit someone with a scumread so much as I'm going to emit a strong ray of benevolence toward the evilest pony before the day is over.

[PenguinPower]

You’re mostly wrong. It’s not that I’m not confident it’s that I do feel a lot of people aren’t town telling and I would vote a lot of people. To me, it wasn’t that I was like ‘oh I’m unsure’ it’s. “Your posting is bad.” Obviously, I am wrong in some places but I don’t think focusing on where I’m wrong is a good idea right now

Haha, duck! I was right.

[MariaR]

Well now I'm just disappointed

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: implosion

is this entirely bc you think implo is faking townreads

[PenguinPower]

Everypony has a chance at kindness!

[MariaR]

VOTE: implosion

is this entirely bc you think implo is faking townreads

Do you want the short or the long answer?

[PenguinPower]

Short pls.

[MariaR]

The short answer is No.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...that was short.

Long is ok then.

[Errantparabola]

The long answer is Nah.

[PenguinPower]

funny

[MariaR]

A big reason for sring Implo is his townreads that he hasn't explained (but feels really good on!) yes. But it's also his vote on Bae. He flip flops on the Elsa wagon saying it's a fine wagon but then calls Elsa town. Alright, so where's the read development after that? Doesn't exist.

If he wants to sort me tbone and reck where are the questions? Cause I don't see any. Zor/Reck are also really interesting people to tr considering they want each other dead and Implo isn't stopping it. His whole late game posting just feels fake to me. It's little bits and pieces that slowly just add up.
pedit: Answer my questions Errant you loser

[Errantparabola]

that requires reading your posts which requires energy which requires me to not be in class rn
Shitposting on the other hand comes from a primal and instinctual place within me

[PenguinPower]

Short answer should have been "yes but with additional commentary."

[MariaR]

I hate both of you

[PenguinPower]

I'm not wrong though.

I like Maria. My kindness will go elsawhere.

[GuyInFreezer]

Something wrong gify?

Yes that post is terribad.

Why are you talking like the stance I took is so outlandishly scummy? You haven’t read much of the game (I assume) so I’m confused as to why you’re like saying everyone should be voting me for my post when you don’t even have the proper knowledge to make a judgment on that post. Like if you read the game then thought a ton of people were towny and thought my stance was dumb and scummy? Fine fair. But you didn’t do that so…

You make it sound like I need to read the whole game and have some sort of stance on every existing players to have a strong stance.
If I had to do that every game I play I wouldn't be playing this game.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh yeah, Baezu.

If I remember correctly, she was one heck of a lynchbait back then.
My opinion? I think she's fine as of now.