Fire on the Mountain [Over]

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Can you look at the FF/or interactions from the last couple pages? I thought they were stilted at first but I think I was just conf biasing because it doesn't really look S/S to me anymore

Yep.
Is there anyone on the grapes wagon that you haven't considered as scum that you might consider scummy in the future?

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or = ddl

Lots of replacements this game...

He already knew they were the same person or should ahve known it

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Jingle and RC are town for me until they aren't. Trust that if they have an anti town agenda it will show itself eventually. Games go a lot better if you trust but verify those two.

Why Jingle?

[Dannflor]

or = ddl

Lots of replacements this game...

He already knew they were the same person or should ahve known it

oh shit

that seems?

I mean maybe he just forgot but

I don't know I don't like his mixup

[Dannflor]

let's lynch grapes?

let's lynch grapes?

VOTE: grapes

VOTE: grapes

VOTE: clemency

think this is better actually

NO
never happened

VOTE: grapes

OMG NSG NO

technically she didn't like start start it and is sheeping prince

grapes was in her PoE previously though so it makes sense

It doesn't look like a bus to me

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FF why is your defense of yourself "your townread townreads me" as opposed to "im town"

I'm saying why not trust the person you are tring if you have doubts.

This is a good point by RC and a less good one by FF

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let's lynch grapes?

let's lynch grapes?

VOTE: grapes

VOTE: grapes

VOTE: clemency

think this is better actually

NO
never happened

VOTE: grapes

OMG NSG NO

technically she didn't like start start it and is sheeping prince

grapes was in her PoE previously though so it makes sense

It doesn't look like a bus to me

Is there a way that you can look at that and think: There is no possible way this is a bus?

[Dannflor]

I just wanna say every single one of his posts makes my stomach turn so I don't know if I can look at FF's posts objectively

the way he words things and asks questions is just so slimy imo

so I'll probably try to evaluate Alisae/RAS more

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Lynching me will just cost town another vanilla.

I honestly don't care if you guys lynch me. I replaced in to help move the game along. If you all agree that my death tells you something about who is scum, then vote away.

FF has a lot of individual scum cred for posts like this

[Dannflor]

Grapes wagon is just eh.

Is your problem with it Grapes or the people voting Grapes?

Grapes. Like hes not obv town but there are much better lunches in the horizon. Plus the speed that the wagon developed smells a bit opportunistic, like people wanting off attn on Buj

How much of this "I dont like the grapes wagon" is "they should be voting BuJ instead?"

like 70 percent, Rei

Ok. Thought as much but wanted to make sure.

I think if it's a bus Rei doesn't do stuff like this

she doesn't discredit or whatever the word is people's avoidance of the grapes wagon

albeit she's not hardcore pushing it but this feels like a really weird interaction regarding the wagon for a bus

[Dannflor]

Lynching me will just cost town another vanilla.

I honestly don't care if you guys lynch me. I replaced in to help move the game along. If you all agree that my death tells you something about who is scum, then vote away.

FF has a lot of individual scum cred for posts like this

yea it's why my vote is on him currently but I'm becoming less and less sure of a DDL/FF scum team

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I just wanna say every single one of his posts makes my stomach turn so I don't know if I can look at FF's posts objectively

the way he words things and asks questions is just so slimy imo

so I'll probably try to evaluate Alisae/RAS more

Right so something I was trying to get at with you earlier
is that people who make solid statements "I'm town" are more likely to be town than people who make beat around the bush statements like "You'll lose a townie if you lynch me" because people don't like to lie, so they say things that are true but are meant to be interpreted incorrectly.

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Grapes wagon is just eh.

Is your problem with it Grapes or the people voting Grapes?

Grapes. Like hes not obv town but there are much better lunches in the horizon. Plus the speed that the wagon developed smells a bit opportunistic, like people wanting off attn on Buj

How much of this "I dont like the grapes wagon" is "they should be voting BuJ instead?"

like 70 percent, Rei

Ok. Thought as much but wanted to make sure.

I think if it's a bus Rei doesn't do stuff like this

she doesn't discredit or whatever the word is people's avoidance of the grapes wagon

albeit she's not hardcore pushing it but this feels like a really weird interaction regarding the wagon for a bus

I agree, very much so, I think.

[Dannflor]

Can you look at the FF/or interactions from the last couple pages? I thought they were stilted at first but I think I was just conf biasing because it doesn't really look S/S to me anymore

Yep.
Is there anyone on the grapes wagon that you haven't considered as scum that you might consider scummy in the future?

I'm not considering you. I'm not considering RC. I'm not considering Ank.

That leaves Rei/Jingle/Alisae/Max.

I'm like 90% on Rei town.

So that leaves Jingle/Alisae/Max and individually I think Alisae is the best candidate, who er partner is might be tricky though

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Can you look at the FF/or interactions from the last couple pages? I thought they were stilted at first but I think I was just conf biasing because it doesn't really look S/S to me anymore

Yep.
Is there anyone on the grapes wagon that you haven't considered as scum that you might consider scummy in the future?

I'm not considering you. I'm not considering RC. I'm not considering Ank.

That leaves Rei/Jingle/Alisae/Max.

I'm like 90% on Rei town.

So that leaves Jingle/Alisae/Max and individually I think Alisae is the best candidate, who er partner is might be tricky though

DDL
Dann
Jingle

are all unlikely

so now we need to look at possibly

liger
max
Creature
Vedith
xtoxm

[Dannflor]

skimming Alisae's ISO and just got to er big FA/Jingle case and I'm gonna read it in depth to see if I think it's S/S

I don't think a wall case like this makes er town at all though

Specifically OkaPoka in mini 2046 pulled the same hyper focused push with big titled wall cases as scum

however his push was on town, so really what matters about this case is how genuine it is if we can eliminate S/S possibility

[Dannflor]

I realize you already don't think Jingle is likely but I'm going to look at this anyway and see if there's anything I can see

[Dannflor]

oh yea and I need to double check liger town clear

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skimming Alisae's ISO and just got to er big FA/Jingle case and I'm gonna read it in depth to see if I think it's S/S

I don't think a wall case like this makes er town at all though

Specifically OkaPoka in mini 2046 pulled the same hyper focused push with big titled wall cases as scum

however his push was on town, so really what matters about this case is how genuine it is if we can eliminate S/S possibility

I realize you already don't think Jingle is likely but I'm going to look at this anyway and see if there's anything I can see

Definitely
I said "unlikely" because it's something I want to look at more later

[Dannflor]

so here's the thing about alisae's push on Jingle

Alisae cases FA/Jingle on Day 2, amidst Shoshin vs. Prince cluster fuck, e knows that lynch isn't going through and even explicitly states that e doesn't wanna derail the shoshin wagon

Actually
I'm going to case FA/Jingle now PR, I'm not derailing your wagon but I feel like if I try to push this D3 I'll have a harder time trying to get people to work with me then then I would while ur alive so...

e also asks if e can lead a wagon on Jingle the next day

does that mean I get to kill Jingle tomorrow?

Come day 3 though, Alisae apparently still scum reads Jingle but instead goes on a meme posting spree

Picks a fight with RC

I think Prince is scum who has me pocketted

Because shoshin was supposed to flip scum
And um
Um
It didn’t flip scum


Also you could 100% of bussed grapes I totally see motivation for you to do that.

Also
Ur alive

If ur town ummm
Ummm
I think you should have died by now?

Idunno
Don’t take my word for it tho

And then votes Clemency randomly and then replaces out

VOTE: clemency

I think Jingle is a cheeky scumfuck

@NSG I can’t convince myself to get excited or be happy about this game anymore I’m sorry I really don’t want to be that one guy that always replaces out of games they can’t enjoy but I’m replacing out

E copies and pastes er case for Ank to read, but never really tries to push or even vote Jingle

so I'm not convinced that specific push can't be S/S, e certainly didn't replace out because e was frustrated e couldn't get enough support for a Jingle wagon

[Dannflor]

I'll look at liger mcqueen stuff now

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What do you think of RAS interactions w/ Jingle upon replacing in?

I know it's not much, but it's something to look at.

I can see Jingle/Ali

I could also see Clem/Ali

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also i love u dannflor ur like one of my 12 favorite

oh good these questions keep getting easier and easier

my friend came over so I'm gonna do fun stuff w/ him but i'l talk to u more later and maybe intermittently

[Dannflor]

give me a quick case on what's wrong with Dannflor, RAS

I only skimmed through some ISO's but both you and him are 2 people that stood out to me as great lynches today. I'm going to be changing my vote because I dislike how passive and distant you've been, and how you ignored what I said in my previous posts completely despite it looking like you faked a comment on purpose. You knew Jingle had a "case" on you, and you acted like he didn't for a second. When I brought it up, you ignored it and responded to other things instead. It was obvious that you knew since you acknowledged it, it's not something you can just forget.

I ISO'd Dannflor quickly this morning before I placed my vote and I felt like he was fillering and playing abnormally passive in a few of his later posts, but I just went through it again, and I'm not getting that vibe anymore. I don't feel like my vote on him was that great, and I'm more comfortable voting you since I've actually had the chance to interact with you, and I haven't been liking the way you've been acting ever since I've joined the game.

VOTE: DDL.

well I'm not sure about RAS/Jingle interactions

but if we need more evidence that DDL isn't er partner I think this does it

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Right.

So let's cross Dannflor/DDL off the list of possible FF partners