Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Formerfish]

yeah thats cool, can you help me understand some of your other reads.
you have creature at null, i think he's done enough even on todays content to have a read on him.
could you go into that one?

Off the cuff I'd say I got the feeling like there was nothing concrete coming from him, just a lot of quibbiling. If I can unbork my computer I'm going to get on there to dive a little bit to help flesh my feeling out.

[MaxwellPuckett]

I've got at least three players trying to give up and eat rope and it's not helpful in the slightest. I need people to figure out what they're doing and how to spew themselves town.

Idk if you are but if youre referring to me here dont
I dont plan on giving up I only mentioned it as a thought i had

[Xtoxm]

ok.
have you read 5869?
this was the post that changed my mind on dann.
you think that post is/can be scum motivated?

[Formerfish]

ok.
have you read 5869?
this was the post that changed my mind on dann.
you think that post is/can be scum motivated?

Who is more important for you to talk to me about right now, creature or dann? If you want me to talk about both at the same time you are going to get nerfed arguments from me. I can focus on one or the other and give you a better read into my mindset and then we can go to the other.

[Xtoxm]

alright, it sounded like you were done responding about creature, so i moved on.
i think creature is a relatively easy sort here, please start with him

[Formerfish]

I feel alive again

I'm already doused probably

ffs just realised this game is extremelilililililililililililililililililililililililililililililililililiilililiililiililililililililily scumsided

Scum will probably keep dousing until they have enough douses to ignite and win.

What are the chances?

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

or is town

ffs we were 1 vote away from having another shitty mislynch

Bad news: pretty sure there's on pretty deep scum here.

My computer is a piece and died in the middle of repsonding. I'll try to do it on my phone.

The first few posts from the day start are just empty posting, nothing to move the game ahead until we get to that last quoted on where he posits the idea of deep scum. And idea that or has been running with and catching a fair amount of shit for.

[Formerfish]

Either we seek that deepscum or we're gonna be slaughters like steers.

And here he doubles down on the deep wolf threat we all need to worry about. Not that he gives any reasons to support his idea or why he has come to think that a deep state exits and we exist within it.

[Xtoxm]

creature is the single most universally townread slot in this game.
what is his scum motivation for challenging consensus reads?
why not just ride the mislynches others are pushing?

[Formerfish]

creature is the single most universally townread slot in this game.
what is his scum motivation for challenging consensus reads?
why not just ride the mislynches others are pushing?

What consensus reads are you talking about specifically? His personal gamble on or being town?

[Formerfish]

Townreads clarified so far:
Enter
Jingle
Ankamius?
Dannflor?

MaxwellPuckett

Personal gamble:
or town

Left:

Liger_Zero
Formerfish
Reiuji Utsuho
Vedith
RadiantCowbells
Xtoxm

I don't see anything earth shatteringly novel in his reads.

[Xtoxm]

the general consensus reads fmpov this game has been

townblock
creature, rc, ank, enter, rei

no mans land
fish, jingle, vedith

poe
x/dann/max/liger/or

note, these are not my reads, but my observation of what most people in the game have appeared to agree with from my perspective

[Vedith]

30 pages \o/

[Xtoxm]

rei and rc in his left pile is certainly against the grain

[Xtoxm]

have you ever seen creatures scum game?

[Vedith]

I just finished 2 games with Creature scum.

[Formerfish]

rei and rc in his left pile is certainly against the grain

And if he is scum he has to have some people he can set aside for later when he might need a mislynch that he could push. RC is especially an easy one to scumpile and not even a little bit controversial. RC is strong as fuck as scum and always is a threat, putting him in a scumpile and then going about his business without ever really doing anything with the read means nothing. Is creature pushing RC as a lynch today?

RU is someone im seeing scum equity in as well, so I cant hate him for that read.

[Formerfish]

have you ever seen creatures scum game?

I dont keep track of my own games that well, much less other peoples. I also know that with a certain strength of player one is able to use their own meta for them and against them at the same time with enough manipulation. Creature is a strong player and would fall into my rubric for that designation.

[Xtoxm]

rei and rc in his left pile is certainly against the grain

And if he is scum he has to have some people he can set aside for later when he might need a mislynch that he could push. RC is especially an easy one to scumpile and not even a little bit controversial. RC is strong as fuck as scum and always is a threat, putting him in a scumpile and then going about his business without ever really doing anything with the read means nothing. Is creature pushing RC as a lynch today?

RU is someone im seeing scum equity in as well, so I cant hate him for that read.

this is actually not true. town need a block of 9 players to correctly identify each other to avoid being endgamed in lylo. challenging rc is not something that scum!creature needs to do at all to win this game.

[Formerfish]

rei and rc in his left pile is certainly against the grain

And if he is scum he has to have some people he can set aside for later when he might need a mislynch that he could push. RC is especially an easy one to scumpile and not even a little bit controversial. RC is strong as fuck as scum and always is a threat, putting him in a scumpile and then going about his business without ever really doing anything with the read means nothing. Is creature pushing RC as a lynch today?

RU is someone im seeing scum equity in as well, so I cant hate him for that read.

this is actually not true. town need a block of 9 players to correctly identify each other to avoid being endgamed in lylo. challenging rc is not something that scum!creature needs to do at all to win this game.

I dont understand how what you said makes what I said not something that could happen. Scum for sure need to set up potential mislynches or they run the risk of painting themselves into a corner and then are forced to 180 on reads that they previously held and now have to manufacture reasons to turn those trs into srs. Its much easier for scum to scumpile someone and then pull them out later as a polished turd for town.

[Formerfish]

What do you make of Creature talking about needing to find the deep wolf and avoid lynchbait, then votes for me?

Would you not think that I, as someone who replaced in and didnt read much past when I replaced in at, would be perfect lynch bait?

And since I have replaced in I have been active and have been attpemting to do what I can to scum hunt, while there are others in the suspect pool who are doing nothing or actively working themselves deeper into a hole.

I am here and will answer any and all questions put to me.

[Xtoxm]

ive suspected a deep wolf for quite some time in this game, in fact i tr most of the poe and also tr the past 3 lynches. so creature doing that is further evidence is his favour fmpov.
your slot had actually been widely tr based on your predecessor ali, and only recently have people been starting to call it scum.
creature is locktown for me for a multitude of reasons.
im not looking to change your mind here, really. im trying to gauge if your read is genuine.
im happy for you to move onto my question about dann now if you are

[Formerfish]

im happy for you to move onto my question about dann now if you are

If you dont have any more questions about my thought process on creature sure,

[Xtoxm]

i find it difficult to believe anyone can truly suspect him here, perhaps its because you arent caught up tho.
i feel like further discussion on him is going to amount to me towncasing him which isnt necessary or productive.
i think youve made your stance clear

[Formerfish]

ok.
have you read 5869?
this was the post that changed my mind on dann.
you think that post is/can be scum motivated?

Ok, I feel like this is a huge post to basically justify his changing read in what really amount to just me and you. Or is his only static scum read, and I know that his read on me is wrong. I think knowing that a push on me is a push on town helps me inform my read because it makes it really easy for me to discredit his other reads knowing how wrong his is on me.

[Formerfish]

Xtox, what did you think about Enters posts surrounding Danns new list for a scumpool for today?