My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Mafia (Game Over)

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Baezu

One day that'll say Bins again.

[Bins]

It might mean Bins...and this is a stretch, the at least one of us, if not all of us, think Zor might be scum?

bad answer

[T-Bone]

For example, yes I know Maria finally did a catch up thing today, but she had been promising that all weekend like Baezu, and you haven't batted an eye.

GIF has promised to not deliver any content, is just posting for the sake of it, and you haven't batted an eye.

Zor hasn't really done anything but post for the sake of posting, and you haven't batted an eye.

I'm sure there is at least one more example I forgot about here.

So I have a difficult time understanding why Baezu deserves your scrutiny in a way that other players don't. And more importantly, why you feel that I should see this as something worth my scrutiny over Elsa or Zor?

[T-Bone]

1) because there's an l-3 wagon on her that would really love to be at l-0
2) who else?

Elsa was at L-2 at one point. So?

It might mean Bins...and this is a stretch, the at least one of us, if not all of us, think Zor might be scum?

bad answer

Yeah but we've already established that you don't like my posting tonally, so you need to dig deeper.

[PenguinPower]

wtf is your signature

[T-Bone]

Implosion, if you want me to consider Baezu, sure, I'm considering and have been. Right now it's not the most interesting thing to me. But if you want to convince me of what they are doing as scummy, you need to apply that standard across the playerlist. (And also convince me that you're scumhunting and not scum yourself) I don't believe in half measures.

[Bins]

i wasnt accussing specifically you

you can agree that its interesting without it being bad for you.

[implosion]

i'm not really trying to convince you per se, tbone.

I am applying the same standard; you're just conflating very different play from very different players as being identical when it isn't. Maria's lurking was just that, lurking; there was no pretense of content (i'm skeptical of her for other reasons though bc her catchup is pretty bad even if just for the read on me). Gif and zor are bad examples because IMO there are other reasons to townread them, even if they have sort of been half-contributing in terms of actual content (and even then, in a very materially different way than baezu).

[PenguinPower]

Implosion, if you want me to consider Baezu, sure, I'm considering and have been. Right now it's not the most interesting thing to me. But if you want to convince me of what they are doing as scummy, you need to apply that standard across the playerlist. (And also convince me that you're scumhunting and not scum yourself) I don't believe in half measures.

why is Zor the most interesting thing to you right now?

[T-Bone]

i wasnt accussing specifically you

you can agree that its interesting without it being bad for you.

Oh totally.

I think I know why Reck did it, and that's why I did it as well. I thought the worst was weird, and I pointed it out as such.

[implosion]

Like, just this.

GIF has promised to not deliver any content, is just posting for the sake of it, and you haven't batted an eye.

This is entirely different from what baezu is doing; she DID promise to deliver content, and that's the whole point.

Understand?

[Bins]

I honestly think the wagon on me in all town...

if beeza is scum, is the wagon on her then all not town

it justs seems like a statement scum wouldnt make because it gives a lot away

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Baezu

One day that'll say Bins again.

Elsa, you’re my rival and all but I’m on bins right now so why don’t you come here instead and we work together on this?

[implosion]

if beeza is scum, is the wagon on her then all not town

correct; baezu is scum, and everyone on her wagon is also scum

[MariaR]

Yes that post is terribad.

Go on…

You make it sound like I need to read the whole game and have some sort of stance on every existing players to have a strong stance.
If I had to do that every game I play I wouldn't be playing this game.

You don’t but the post in question I’m having no idea how you can have that stance without catching up. (Whoa maybe if you explained…) Because I don’t know what you’re calling bad about the post. I can assume what I think you’re talking about and I am. But still, what do you find scummy about the post? Because if I think you’re calling it bad for what I think you are. Then I have no clue how you can have the stance you’re taking while not reading the game.

zor wants me dead?

I thought so but I see on this page I am wrong.

This is just such a weird take. Like, you're having trouble finding townreads so everyone else must too???

No, that’s not what I said because if I really did think that I’d be scumreading half th-oh wait. Anyway this is wrong because that’s not even close to the reason.

I feel like this is a pretty easy game to find town in. Like sure I didn't explain them but it's kind of one-dimensional to jump from "implosion isn't explaining his townreads 24 hours after the game started" to "implosion is making up his reads".

Then explain them??? You yourself said you feel good about your reads so they should be easy to explain and yet you’re still not doing it. You gave a list of reads and a lot of those people I was like ‘hm why is he townreading them I don’t see it let me ask.’ When you just said ‘I don’t wanna explain’ that to me reads bullshit yes.

i actually have no idea what you mean here wrt elsa.

After saying the 2 leading wagons are fine votes and then calling one of them town I would think someone would reflect and go ‘okay who’s scummy on that wagon now that I townread it’ or talking about it more at least. You did neither of those things.

Plenty of ways to sort people other than questions. Literally sorted reck by saying that line and looking at his reaction to it.

Literally no idea what you're talking about wrt zor/reck and why would i care if they want each other dead if neither of them is under any pressure whatsoever.

I don’t know about you but if my 2 townreads wanted each other dead I’d prob try to stop it and get them to focus on other stuff unless I saw a good reason to keep them at each other. You clearly don’t considering your answer here.

why is the worst in this list? why am i not in this list if i'm (presumably) your biggest scumread?

This was a list of people who were getting talked about at the time Bae Elsa and the worst. This wasn’t my personal list of people I wanted iso’d. Zito wanted to get back in the game and I think him having a read on those 3 slots would help them greatly.

Like you’re putting up this illusion that you have a great read on the game state and you’re confident in your reads stuff like that. But your actions and the way you’re playing show otherwise.

While I appreciate the sheeping, it really bothers me that you keep doing it after I spent a page calling you scummy!

Why would this be a problem?

[Bins]

yeah he needs some help because his read has no sustenance

[implosion]

Then explain them???

i've done this for like all of them by now

[Bins]

that was @ alch, big walls ruining my sass

if beeza is scum, is the wagon on her then all not town

correct; baezu is scum, and everyone on her wagon is also scum

!!!!!!!!!!!

srs tho

[Bins]

not all town

all not town

¬∀(P -> Q)

[implosion]

maria 90% of your argument against me is you saying "I play town this way, and implosion is not playing this game that way"
are you familiar with the concept of mafia playstyles

[Bins]

¬∀x(Px -> Qx)

dropped my variables

[implosion]

like take the elsa wagon; i think he's probably town but that's a VERY weak probably and i don't think the wagon on him was bad as a wagon, per se. you're just stripping any potential nuance and saying "implosion called him town, logically he must then analyze the wagon to find scum on it" which isn't even necessarily a good idea in the first place

[MariaR]

hey friends lets talk about our zor reads

I started glazing over his posting because it’s just gifs. His scumslip posts and votes are bad though.

*ahem*

GET OFF YOUR VANITY WAGONS!

holy crap.

It’S aLmOsT lIkE i’M tRyInG tO sTaRt A nEw WaGoN oR sOmEtHiNg

I'm just so skeptical that this line of reasoning + the way zor's played this game together is coming from scum.

How the hell does zoraster of all people, the admin who hasn't played mafia on ms in O(years), enter a game as scum and think it's a good idea to make this argument? How does he even think to make this argument in the first place?

‘Why does a player make this argument as scum’ is you already answering your question in the first place. It’s not impossible for scum zor to jump on the worst for a ‘scumslip’

For example, yes I know Maria finally did a catch up thing today, but she had been promising that all weekend like Baezu, and you haven't batted an eye.

Excuse you. The closest thing I said to catching up was soon and I posted the next day THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Don’t put me in with the rest of that trash ewwww

I am applying the same standard; you're just conflating very different play from very different players as being identical when it isn't. Maria's lurking was just that, lurking;

?????? I was never lurking in the first place?

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Baezu

One day that'll say Bins again.

Elsa, you’re my

rival

and all but I’m on bins right now so why don’t you come here instead and we work together on this?

Nani.

[implosion]

you lurked for like 3 days sue me