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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 99, Shoshin wrote:I strongly support the use of associations to scumhunt.
Good point, I should have mentioned we have at least one other associative scumhunter at the table.



re. Whig (I keep forgetting to answer questions on my own reads o.0 I might be getting senile)

I thought his rvs vote was funny. I liked when shoshin/urap2/me were going back and forth at pretty high speed and being kind of obscure, and whig slipped in a jab at my vague offer to help people get into the game. I think it takes some pretty serious guts for scum in their first game onsite to dive into a fast paced convo like that and he sounded pretty tonally pure.

His scumread on Shoshin was also very inquisitive in nature and pretty creative in a way that makes me think he's been sitting back going "Wow.. do I really actually agree with this townread?" rather than "Hmm who should I convince these silly townies to mislynch, muahaha"

often when scum take stances against town players who are taking a strong position, it feels like there's a call for them to be dethroned and lynched -- townies being obviously-town is very much against scum's win condition. This read from whig was literally the opposite. I genuinely think he disagrees with my read on Shoshin and got the sense he felt the need to be heard on it.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:57 pm

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Spoiler: lyrics
Well-a, beat the drum and hold the phone,
The sun came out today.
We're born again, there's new grass on the field.
A-roundin' third, and headed for home,
It's a brown-eyed handsome man,
Anyone can understand the way I feel.
()
Ooohh --
Put me in coach, I'm ready to play today
Put me in coach, I'm ready to play today
Look at me, I can be, Centerfield
Well, I spent some time in the Mudville Nine
Watching it from the bench
You know I took some lumps, when the mighty Case struck out
So "Say Hey" Willie, tell the Cobb, and Joe DiMaggio
Don't say it ain't so
You know the time is now
Yeah!
I got it, I got it!
Got a beat-up glove, a home-made bat
And a brand new pair of shoes.
You know I think it's time to give this game a ride
Just to hit the ball, and touch 'em all, a moment in the sun
It's-a gone and you can tell that one good-bye
Ooohh --
Put me in coach, I'm ready to play today
Put me in coach, I'm ready to play today
Look at me, gotta be, Centerfield
Yeah!


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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:17 pm

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I forgot I wasn't voting. My bad.
VOTE: godmid

Gonna shake things up. :]
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:35 pm

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I'm honestly getting a bad vibe from uap2, I know its kinda calling the pot calling the kettle black as I havent contributed much either but uap2s posts seem to just be shallow
First he calls on me scum though I think that was just a joke and part of rvs but then he calls a strong town read on lavender before immediately changing his mind if one of the SE's are scum uap2 seems to me to contribute the least of the SE's of course its entirely possible none of the SE's are scum but this is the most I can pick up atm with the limited info available
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:39 pm

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if it's not too much work could you grab a couple of posts from URAP's ISO (use the 'display posts by user' function right underneath quick reply for ease :)) which made you feel that way? talk through what you're seeing a little if that's cool

just helps me parse what you're picking up in urap2's ISO, and whether I've missed something or whether there's some bias involved
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:16 pm

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minimum 1 scum in godmid + robotnik, and it could just be both

Never in a million years am I lynching TW

Never today am I lynching shoshin or whig

someone asked me why I town read TW and it was because I was hoping he was town and wanted to get things moving

Thankfully, he is super town. This is his Socratic-inspired style of town play

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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:18 pm

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Post 13 votes me then post 21 declares he believes shoshin is lying about being town when challenged abot this he declares in post 29 he is happy where his vote is.
Then this:
In post 35, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 32, the worst wrote:@onob what pinged you about Marcus?
pick any of his posts, they're all bad!
Still no real explanation probably just joking around?

Finally posts 69-72 decides that lavender is town after lavender has barely said anything when shoshin questions the read uap2 says it is a strong read before suddenly deciding not strong

Small things but doesn't seem to be active scumhunting like tw and shoshin
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:21 pm

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you know you had exactly 1 post when i made that post, right? lolol
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:24 pm

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I know thats why I figured it was a joke vote but don't understand why you are 'happy with your vote' while declaring shoshin as not town? Or do you no longer feel shoshin is not town?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:29 pm

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no, i no longer think shoshin is not town as stated in and earlier.

I was happy with my vote because your opening was weird given you don't seem to know TW and because I was never really scum reading shoshin to begin with

Now I have two slots I feel are better votes than you. Whatcha think about that, Jack?
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:58 pm

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To follow up on this...
In post 90, Shoshin wrote: I think it's okay to consider the possibility that I'm scum as long as you keep your focus on what's probable over what's possible. I don't think using personal meta is "dirty" & I encourage everyone to use it. Why do you think it's "dirty"? What's your experience with mafia?
Of course I'm considering the possibility that you're scum. Having said that, the reason why I wanted to comment on your defense for your self vote was because it did seem like a fairly compelling argument as to why you are more likely to be town. I wanted to dig at it a little further and get a response from you to get a better feel as to whether you were being genuine, more then feeling any actual displeasure towards the use of personal meta, which is the section you chose to focus on.

While I am going to stick by my assessment that doing that type of gambit as mafia in a newb game is a bit underhanded, I am leaning town on you currently more then anyone else.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:08 pm

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VOTE: Lavender

While they are giving opinions and the highly uncertain tone in their posts is to be expected, it feels like they are trying quite hard to avoid giving much of a scum lean onto anyone (relative to town lean).
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:14 pm

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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:46 pm

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With all slots filled and confirmed, the timer now starts once more.

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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:49 pm

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Hello, friends! Just caught up on the thread. My gut feeling is...

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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:25 am

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Why Lavender, Ryno?
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:39 am

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Gut feeling is gut feeling, unfortunately. Maybe it's the way they seem too eager to please.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:44 am

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okay, how about other thoughts on the game
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:08 am

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Godmid, The reason why I don’t seem like I’m actively scum-hunting, is because I do not want to make someone stray from a correct read with my unsure reads.
And Ryno, My eager to please thing you have of me, is it because of my answering questions? If so I am simply trying to be helpful. If not and it’s something else like my reads, then you can make an assumption that I want to please. If it’s neither of those then can you tell me what made you think that of me?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:50 am

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In post 117, u r a person 2 wrote:okay, how about other thoughts on the game
Is it bad that I don't have many more thoughts? I'm new to this, but it seems very early in the game to me. Even if I did have a read on someone, I think I would wait in order to not point it out to them, else they might stop doing it. I want to just watch everyone from the shadows :cool:
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 am

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In post 118, Lavender wrote:Godmid, The reason why I don’t seem like I’m actively scum-hunting, is because I do not want to make someone stray from a correct read with my unsure reads.
And Ryno, My eager to please thing you have of me, is it because of my answering questions? If so I am simply trying to be helpful. If not and it’s something else like my reads, then you can make an assumption that I want to please. If it’s neither of those then can you tell me what made you think that of me?
It might be that you genuinely want to help, but I get the feeling that you want to seem like you want to help.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:13 am

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In post 119, Ryno56 wrote:
In post 117, u r a person 2 wrote:okay, how about other thoughts on the game
Is it bad that I don't have many more thoughts? I'm new to this, but it seems very early in the game to me. Even if I did have a read on someone, I think I would wait in order to not point it out to them, else they might stop doing it. I want to just watch everyone from the shadows :cool:
If everyone played like that, there would be no game. =/

And how would people town read you? You can't catch scum if you're getting lynched
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:32 am

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In post 120, Ryno56 wrote:
In post 118, Lavender wrote:Godmid, The reason why I don’t seem like I’m actively scum-hunting, is because I do not want to make someone stray from a correct read with my unsure reads.
And Ryno, My eager to please thing you have of me, is it because of my answering questions? If so I am simply trying to be helpful. If not and it’s something else like my reads, then you can make an assumption that I want to please. If it’s neither of those then can you tell me what made you think that of me?
It might be that you genuinely want to help, but I get the feeling that you want to seem like you want to help.
Ok, but can you to tell me where you get this feeling from? Of how I want to seem like I’m helping?
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:53 am

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In post 121, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 119, Ryno56 wrote:
In post 117, u r a person 2 wrote:okay, how about other thoughts on the game
Is it bad that I don't have many more thoughts? I'm new to this, but it seems very early in the game to me. Even if I did have a read on someone, I think I would wait in order to not point it out to them, else they might stop doing it. I want to just watch everyone from the shadows :cool:
If everyone played like that, there would be no game. =/

And how would people town read you? You can't catch scum if you're getting lynched
I think you're assuming that I won't play at all - I'm saying that there isn't much to go on initially, as in for the first few days. That's why RVS exists in the first place, right?
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:53 am

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In post 122, Lavender wrote:
In post 120, Ryno56 wrote:
In post 118, Lavender wrote:Godmid, The reason why I don’t seem like I’m actively scum-hunting, is because I do not want to make someone stray from a correct read with my unsure reads.
And Ryno, My eager to please thing you have of me, is it because of my answering questions? If so I am simply trying to be helpful. If not and it’s something else like my reads, then you can make an assumption that I want to please. If it’s neither of those then can you tell me what made you think that of me?
It might be that you genuinely want to help, but I get the feeling that you want to seem like you want to help.
Ok, but can you to tell me where you get this feeling from? Of how I want to seem like I’m helping?
I can't tell you without potentially helping you, SCUM!
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