Mini Normal 2066: Catloaves [Game Over!]

[Ankamius]

look at all of Locke's posts and tell me what sorting he has done.

I can guarantee you that you will find it to be basically nonexistent other than sheeping onto the popular wagons of the day on day 2 and 3

the rest of his posting is just random questions that don't lead anywhere and look busy

his response to me initially pushing him is "why are you finding me scummier than the renowned quickhammerer???" which he knows is NAI

he's not sorting
he's not responding to pressure in a town way
he's COASTING

[Ankamius]

that quoted post is from TOWN locke in access point btw

[PenguinPower]

Is it worth bothering to case

Because I'll outright case Locke if I have to but I won't bother if everyone is going to be like nom

My preference is NM for my reasons outlined earlier. I could be swayed if your case on Locke is better than NM's dance around the GW wagon + not wanting to take the slot into Lylo.

[nomnomnom]

I feel like this game got so heavily derailed by the day 2 bullshit that everyone just kind of locked on to their pet scumreads

Well yeah, we kinda had the most done day 1 because town was more cohesive to begin with.

Day 2 was chaotic in comparison, and today is a clusterfuck because of this.

We kinda didn't help ourselves today either, I feel like. I wanted to throw my theory out there early on and see where others would go from there, but it just didn't happen. You and Roster were the two biggest voices against the nm/roster scums, but my biggest problem is that I just don't trust your game solving. You jumped to different votes through the course of today, and the worst is that your opinion on Locke has rapidly changed two times, from scum to "not scum, nom must be scum instead" then back on Locke again. That's just not good at all! We can't vote Locke here in these conditions!

I literally have no choice but to stick to my initial reads here.

[Ankamius]

my biggest problem is that I just don't trust your game solving. You jumped to different votes through the course of today, and the worst is that your opinion on Locke has rapidly changed two times, from scum to "not scum, nom must be scum instead" then back on Locke again. That's just not good at all! We can't vote Locke here in these conditions!

that's called sorting, nom.

if you haven't realized, I've been a lot less 'around' since day one.

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: not_mafia

[nomnomnom]

my biggest problem is that I just don't trust your game solving. You jumped to different votes through the course of today, and the worst is that your opinion on Locke has rapidly changed two times, from scum to "not scum, nom must be scum instead" then back on Locke again. That's just not good at all! We can't vote Locke here in these conditions!

that's called sorting, nom.

if you haven't realized, I've been a lot less 'around' since day one.

That's kinda the case for most people in the thread, I feel we're all guilty of this in a way.

We need more cohesion and less apathy if we want to get back on track.

[Ankamius]

Scum is either Eragon or milk or both. Despite claiming intent to join the wagon multiple times and saying he scumread GW, Eragon didn't put GW at L-1 nor did he hammer. Seen scum pull this trick before were they claimed intent to hammer without much time left on the clock to try and wait out the timer. And the whole GW pushing the alac wagon as an alternative to Eragon's with some piss poor reasoning, even though he claimed he still scumread Insomnia/Eragon.

Milk did join the wagon, multiple times, but kept trying to undermine it or start different wagons to draw attention away, such as trying to vote up Alac and The Penguin of all people. Also even when it was clear there was no way GW wasn't getting out of day 1 alive no matter what he claimed, he still tried to use the excuse of waiting for the claim to not hammer, which if he had been let off for, GW could have just never claimed as there wasn't much time left.

VOTE: Eragon

Alacrity conftown. I noticed that town split into pairs. Lock and roster, me and nom, urap and alac, pp and Elsa. N-m grandwazoo and eragon never really had anyone they gelled with. I dont think alac kills the only one who was agreeing with their reads

I'm not sure I entirely understand the reasoning behind most of your pairs tbh. Though yes based off D1, I agree scum!Alacrity wouldn't NK urap.

What makes you think this wagon is led by town, if anything this feels like scum making use of the replace out to get votes of their partner

Feels like a soft-defense to me.

How? This was part of the whole me scumreading basically everyone on the wagon who wasn't n_m

Well then I'm fine with helping start the Insomnia/Eragon wagon back up again, after all my read on GW is mainly based off the possibility of him being Insomnia's scum partner so why not find out whether Insomnia/Eragon is scum first

VOTE: Eragon

‘My read is based on being Insomnia’s scum partner’ seems untrue to me.

Why does it seem untrue when I literally only started looking for other scum besides Insomnia based off the idea that they acted like they might be his scum partner?

Also means Locke/Eragon isn’t a team.

Also I absolutely agree with this, though obviously not for the reason you think

Why does it seem untrue when I literally only started looking for other scum besides Insomnia based off the idea that they acted like they might be his scum partner?

His actions don't make sense to me from a town perspective, especially with his lack of fearing a quickhammer and the fact he was properly scumreading Insomnia. Like this explanation just seems fishy asf to me

Tells me that you had independent from being Insomnia's partner.

How does that dispute me saying I

mainly

based my scumread of him off of the idea he was Insomnia/Eragon's scum parter

Don't misrep me Roster, it was his apparent lack of fear of a quickhammer yet claiming intent to put Eragon/Insomnia to L-1 then switching to Alacrity not just the lack of fear of a quickhammer

And that his sudden switch rather than risk his partner getting hammered is what made him seem like Insomnia's scum partner

Apologies, I very slightly misinterpreted one of the setup rules:

Correction: The Mafia

do

have daytalk.

But yes you might be right that his scum partner did tell him to back off

:lol:

Yes, the guy who led the eod push on scum is scum.

Don't be bad.

Also true.

I’m kind of 50/50 over Milk or Elsa, but Eragon makes sense to be scum off the wagon.

Then join me on the Eragon wagon, we've got cookies

Ok so theres been a lot posted since I last posted so probably gonna multipost a fair bit here, apologies

Spoiler: Eragon

In post 506, ChibiBear wrote:

uhh ok?

isnt this what Roster said?

No, he thought that the scum partner had to be either me or Nom because we were telling him to back off in this thread when if his partner told him to back off, they could have done it outside of the thread

because N_M is in this game :3

Intent to L-1 GrandWazoo

Hammer hammer

I have fire in my eyes

Would it be animal abuse to steal N_M’s hammer?

But if I’m a raven, then how can an animal abuse an animal

:3

Where is this previous explanation about why you didn't want to L-1 GW? Because in between this posts and 909 I see no previous explanation at all

well I'm here and engaged

show me why my locke scumread is wrong.

[Ankamius]

holy fuck I went to the wrong tab

[nomnomnom]

I just have a question in all of this, and it's an important one:

For me it's not about the Locke read, it's about the NM read.

I understand the arguments you put forward, and they're compelling. But in my mind, I still see no reason to switch off a player that I think is scum AND a great problem in the long run. NM is just playing anti-town. What you said about Locke applies tenfold to NM. He does not solve the game, he's coasty, his votes are shady, he causes confusion, he is not active and that's apparent because of the prods he's been getting, and at the times where he SHOULD be contributing (aka about to get wagoned to death) he does not do anything at all.

So how is Locke a better vote than NM? Or in other words, do you have a great reason to think NM is town? Because frankly I see none.

I feel we need to fix this first before getting anywhere, you and I.

[rosterfoster]

It’s not.

VOTE: Locke

[nomnomnom]

What the fuck honestly

[Ankamius]

nom

do you think that town just loses if town!nm reaches day 4

[nomnomnom]

nom

do you think that town just loses if town!nm reaches day 4

Yes. 100%.

[Ankamius]

you understand that with a scum lynch, penguinpower becomes a cop, right?

[nomnomnom]

But again, I think he's scum, which is my main argument for a NM lynch. I'm maybe too biased by the "danger for town" stuff but whatever, I really do feel not lynching NM here is a terrible mistake and spells death for all of us.

[nomnomnom]

you understand that with a scum lynch, penguinpower becomes a cop, right?

Again, you're speaking like you're convinced NM is town. I literally cannot imagine how anyone would come to that conclusion.

[PenguinPower]

I'm with nom atm.

[PenguinPower]

you understand that with a scum lynch, penguinpower becomes a cop, right?

How is this helpful in the conversation going on atm?

[Ankamius]

I'm looking through N_M's games atm

[Ankamius]

lol he's not tonereadable

[Ankamius]

tbh

I'm not seeing the scum case on him at all actually, it all looks really NAI

[rosterfoster]

See I don’t think we can policy NM really. Yesterday it would have been a more serious option. But too many scum.

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Locke

[rosterfoster]

And I DO feel like it’s more of a policy lynch.