Starcraft Mafia: Legacy of the Void [Game Over]

Volxen MJL Combo Pack · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:11 pm

In post 432, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 430, Vedith wrote:Yes, you should claim!
Fenix the bulletproof.

My "2" flavors are before and after my body was killed lol

In post 584, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 562, Vedith wrote:I don't think Liger is scum btw.
im agreeing with you i think

we should lynch through the bullet proof claim that was total bs

In post 588, u r a person 2 wrote:RCE, I think sometimes we out-game ourselves when simply voting scum is a solid, time-tested strategy

Consider that recent mini-normal run by NSG, https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78917

Scum was at L-1, claimed mod would confirm him as IC the next day. Simplest example of a role claim being self-resolving

But the mechanics of the game meant that town would have been better off just lynching the guy they thought was scum

Let's try something new and just lynch scum

Why were you so quick to want to lynch him through his claim on day one, given that you were in Starcraft 2? Remember that in that game there were two town-aligned one-shot BP's -- Michael Scott (Auro and I) and Tibor & Lumia (Gamma Emerald and Brassherald)/Firebinger both had that role (see: Starcraft 2 Mod Thread). That game was 11 town vs 3 scum, and there are at least 11 townies in this game, so it's very likely that there is at least one town-aligned BP role in this game.

- Volxen

Alchemist21 · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:15 pm

In post 649, chennisden wrote:Because he can very easily get away with not saying it

That’s a weak argument for why he wouldn’t do it as scum.

chennisden · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:24 pm

Ive seen URAP scum and URAP town and this is URAP town.

Almost50 · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:02 pm

In post 642, u r a person 2 wrote:A50, got any scum reads in shiro, volxen, Hydra TBD?

Shiro maybe. I have town leans on the other two.

RCEnigma · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:06 pm

In post 650, Volxen MJL Combo Pack wrote:
In post 432, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 430, Vedith wrote:Yes, you should claim!
Fenix the bulletproof.

My "2" flavors are before and after my body was killed lol

In post 584, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 562, Vedith wrote:I don't think Liger is scum btw.
im agreeing with you i think

we should lynch through the bullet proof claim that was total bs

In post 588, u r a person 2 wrote:RCE, I think sometimes we out-game ourselves when simply voting scum is a solid, time-tested strategy

Consider that recent mini-normal run by NSG, https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78917

Scum was at L-1, claimed mod would confirm him as IC the next day. Simplest example of a role claim being self-resolving

But the mechanics of the game meant that town would have been better off just lynching the guy they thought was scum

Let's try something new and just lynch scum
Why were you so quick to want to lynch him through his claim on day one, given that you were in Starcraft 2? Remember that in that game there were two town-aligned one-shot BP's -- Michael Scott (Auro and I) and Tibor & Lumia (Gamma Emerald and Brassherald)/Firebinger both had that role (see: Starcraft 2 Mod Thread). That game was 11 town vs 3 scum, and there are at least 11 townies in this game, so it's very likely that there is at least one town-aligned BP role in this game.

- Volxen

Yeah but the 2 flavors thing actually makes me think recruitable traitor now.

RCEnigma · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:07 pm

Does someone like that fit in the starcraft lore?

RCEnigma · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:09 pm

Is shadow Duran? I guess that still fits with Zerg being the scum faction.

RCEnigma · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:10 pm

I'm learning a lot of starcraft from this game lol thanks Volxen.

Almost50 · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:15 pm

In post 656, RCEnigma wrote:Is shadow Duran? I guess that still fits with Zerg being the scum faction.

I have a sinking feeling Krazy is messing with us (like he always does) and -maybe- this time scum/town are a mix of all things put together. I mean, this would be a really GOOD wasy of confusing us and giving us "false gulties", so to speak.

RCEnigma · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:18 pm

Possibly yeah, flavor-gaming probably isn't the best.

Also looking through Starcraft 1, there was also a bulletproof but it was 1-shot bulletproof godfather. I don't think Volxens argument holds weight, it's not alignment tied and there doesn't have to be a town bp.

RCEnigma · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:20 pm

But, on the other side of that coin A50. Those that have dropped role hints have all pointed to Protoss as the town faction, I don't think that's insignificant.

RCEnigma · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:20 pm

Or maybe I started that.... I don't really remember.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:36 pm

In post 650, Volxen MJL Combo Pack wrote:Why were you so quick to want to lynch him through his claim on day one, given that you were in Starcraft 2? Remember that in that game there were two town-aligned one-shot BP's -- Michael Scott (Auro and I) and Tibor & Lumia (Gamma Emerald and Brassherald)/Firebinger both had that role (see: Starcraft 2 Mod Thread). That game was 11 town vs 3 scum, and there are at least 11 townies in this game, so it's very likely that there is at least one town-aligned BP role in this game.

- Volxen

I don't presume Krazy to be so predictable. There doesn't have to be a town bp this game. I certainly wouldn't say that it is very likely that there is one. Perhaps it makes it more likely for there

not

to be one. Why don't you walk me through your process for doing meta analysis on the mod?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:37 pm

In post 653, Almost50 wrote:
In post 642, u r a person 2 wrote:A50, got any scum reads in shiro, volxen, Hydra TBD?
Shiro maybe. I have town leans on the other two.

Why the town read on volxen?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:38 pm

In post 655, RCEnigma wrote:Does someone like that fit in the starcraft lore?

Yes. Also yes to anything else possibly fitting into starcraft lore. There are a million character storylines with every trope twist in existence.

RCEnigma · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:42 pm

Half cyborg battling with the reality that his consciousness may not be the "real" him. But he also has space cancer and is fighting for a cure?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:43 pm

yeah that fits the bp role

RCEnigma · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:43 pm

If I could make a suggestion it would be to shoot icon and shadow simultaneously.

Iconeum · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:27 pm

In post 667, RCEnigma wrote:If I could make a suggestion it would be to shoot icon and shadow simultaneously.

because you think i'm scum?

Iconeum · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:32 pm

In post 626, u r a person 2 wrote:Ico, do you think we should lynch shadowless today?

I think it would be a good lynch, yes. And I'm surprised pressure on shadow is status quo after his claim.
Though it's too soon to lynch him now, I want more interaction around his claim first.

In post 628, Vedith wrote:
In post 613, Liger_Zero wrote:Minor scumread on Cereberus. Something seems out of place. Not sure what it is yet.
I started to feel this too.

Piggybacking. brrrrrr. Vedith are you scum this game?

In post 630, Vedith wrote:
In post 623, Iconeum wrote:*i suppose a survivor would make sense to get BP, but same goes for a SK*

either way, both options point towards lynching over dedicating town power
That's the kind of thinking that never gets a D1 scum lynch.

Explain this to me? Because either i'm missing the point you are trying to make, or you misinterpret me.

Hydra TBD · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:36 pm

In post 647, chennisden wrote:
In post 593, Hydra TBD wrote:
In post 583, u r a person 2 wrote:chenn is often marked as the go-to mislynch. I haven't seen anything scum-indicative here yet
Chenn was super obvtown in Nomination Mafia, was that an unusual game for him?

- TBD
It took me until LyLo to start obvtowning

(though I did inherit a really scummy predecessor)

I took a look at this game, and I think what you’re saying is true.

Do you generally not like playing early game or something?

- Hydra

Hydra TBD · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:40 pm

In post 663, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 653, Almost50 wrote:
In post 642, u r a person 2 wrote:A50, got any scum reads in shiro, volxen, Hydra TBD?
Shiro maybe. I have town leans on the other two.
Why the town read on volxen?

Why not ask about us?

- Hydra

Hydra TBD · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:42 pm

VOTE: Shiro

This vote has a seal of approval from both heads of this hydra.

- Hydra

Iconeum · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:43 pm

In post 639, u r a person 2 wrote:I don't know if wow is on the menu for this game, mate. I'm shooting for a solid C here after D1 with the hope that I'll be around more D2

I did browse around the starcraft wiki last night and I'm less against leaving shadow until later than I was

shiro, volxen/mj, Hydra TBD are all good votes here I think

VOTE: hydra tbd

why vote hydra tbd over shiro or the other hydra?

Iconeum · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:46 pm

In post 663, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 653, Almost50 wrote:
In post 642, u r a person 2 wrote:A50, got any scum reads in shiro, volxen, Hydra TBD?
Shiro maybe. I have town leans on the other two.
Why the town read on volxen?

This doesn't make sense. Why are you asking him about town read on volxen instead of his townread on HYDRA TBD (the one you are voting)?

I'd think you would be more interested in that, since you are voting there yourself.
Feels fabricated and forced.