Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[RadiantCowbells]

thank u amrck

[Buki]

VOTE: unvoted

Like, I actually am less annoyed right now so I thought "maybe I should go for Shoshin and just keep from where I left" but...

I don't know if Shoshin is that much scummier than you anymore Wiz. You two are kind of getting more and more equal in terms of scuminess.

[Buki]

I think Shoshin is scummier

but I feel like you're scummy enough that I shouldn't really mind if you're first or second...so...

VOTE: Wizard

[Buki]

RC what is your read in Shoshin?

[RadiantCowbells]

if you're town she could easily be scum.

[Buki]

if you're town she could easily be scum.

Hm

stop the lol read in that case

why I'm scum?

[TheWizard]

thank u amrck

Never heard of her.

I think Shoshin is scummier

but I feel like you're scummy enough that I shouldn't really mind if you're first or second...so...

VOTE: Wizard

If you die tonight, and I'm still alive, you know I'll be pushed by RC. If you die tonight, and Shoshin is still alive, who will push him?

[Buki]

CoA takes care of it if Shoshin is scum I think

[Buki]

Also if we stop the joke RC should know I'm town, just as CoA

[TheWizard]

I have to go to bed now.

Buki, if by chance you decide you want to play to your wincon, please vote Shoshin (or RC).

Everyone else, if I am hammered before I can post again, please remember that the scum team is RC, Shoshin, and whoever hammered me. I am now at L-2.

[Eyes without a face]

please don't cop buki btw. we're just lynching him and you'll have to claim to defend him if he flips town. use the cop on someone relevant.

Noted.

[Dr Worm]

First of all, I don't give two shits about RC's reputation. I know enough about him from direct interaction, I don't need to rely on hearsay.

Since RC *is* good at orchestrating mislynches, I'll go ahead and claim. I am actually one of the doctors.

My role PM didn't say anything about this bullshit mechanic where I can't be healed

, which is why I suggested to Pretentious that we heal each other. I knew that he was creating wifom, but figured that if he was lying, he'd be CCed and then retract. Once he explained the mechanic and I realized how badly I'd screwed up, I tried to maximize wifom by implying that I was a VT fakeclaiming, but not discussing the matter in any detail. RC has repeatedly tried to get me to explain my actions and therefore let him and his scumbuddies know whether or not they should kill me; as much as I hate to give in it's necessary at this point.

As far as Shoshin goes, the arguments between him and RC seems contrived, so it's likely a scum v scum interaction. All things being equal, I'd be fine lynching Shoshin today and RC tomorrow. However, I'm almost certainly going to die tonight, and (if we lynch Shoshin today) RC will use her scumflip and his conflicts with her to try to talk himself out of getting lynched. It's likely that the town would get suckered in, and RC would then carry scum to endgame without any real opposition.

Given this, I want to see RC die before I do, which means today. Shoshin is barely trying so I trust the town to lynch him in my absence.

Also,

according to the mafia role card in the OP

, they only have night chat, and therefore haven't communicated yet. RC is intentionally townslipping by pretending not to know this.

[Eyes without a face]

Sample Votecount

VOTECOUNT

Player 4 (4)

- Player 1, Player 2, Player 3, Player 5

Player 3 (3)

- Player 4, Player 6, Player 7

Player 2 (2)

- Player 8, Player 9

Player 1 (1)

- Player 10

Not Voting (3) - Player 11, Player 12, Player 13

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

The deadline is on Month Day, Year at [time], which is in 0.00

Playerlist

1. 0.00
   
2. 0.00
   
3. 0.00
   
4. 0.00
   
5. 0.00
   
6. 0.00
   
7. 0.00
   
8. 0.00
   Miss Kobayashi Maru
   
   
9. 0.00
   
10. 0.00
    Skellen
    
    
11. 0.00
    
12. 0.00
    
13. 0.00

0.00

[Dr Worm]

I need to catch up on this game...please gimme a bit

DO YOU BELEIVE WIZZERD"S CLAIM??

that answer is already in their ISO

BUKU PLAESE don"t ANSWER questions for OTHERS!!

[Dr Worm]

DR WORM is not DUMB.. I know BEZUES ISO!!

[Egix96]

@Egix

what is your opinion on Wizard, and don't mention RC in your read on Wizard.

Based on a quick read of his ISO... hmm, tbh I really don't know, he could go either way.

What do you think of his smug overconfidence in his reads?

does it feel fake?

Ehhh I guess his tunnelling feels kinda genuine? Obviously I know he's wrong about me but the way he's tunnelling on Cowbells kinda feels like how I was in my early town games (Newbies 1893 and 1898). That's not something I could really bring up in my previous response because you said I couldn't make references to Cowbells.

[Egix96]

SORRRY NOT THOSE THOTS LIKE HO-HOS.. MEANT TO WRITE THUOGHTS!!

Ohh thank goodness I'm not the only one here who's accidentally spouting dirty words.

->

[Buki]

please don't cop buki btw. we're just lynching him and you'll have to claim to defend him if he flips town. use the cop on someone relevant.

Noted.

Yeah

no

I didn't want to be rude before but I don't care anymore

I slept, and now that I woke up I did re:read all of this and...

I'm feeling pretty stupid. It's a fucking shit case and it's because of people that buy it like you that I get pissed off.

I wanted to lynch confirmed scum. Because Shoshin is confirmed scum if she can't show me a single game where she does absolutely nothing. Radiant wants to lynch someone that isn't confirmed scum because he wants to play with Shoshin.

It's like

fucking simple like that

[Buki]

@Egix

what is your opinion on Wizard, and don't mention RC in your read on Wizard.

Based on a quick read of his ISO... hmm, tbh I really don't know, he could go either way.

What do you think of his smug overconfidence in his reads?

does it feel fake?

Ehhh I guess his tunnelling feels kinda genuine? Obviously I know he's wrong about me but the way he's tunnelling on Cowbells kinda feels like how I was in my early town games (Newbies 1893 and 1898). That's not something I could really bring up in my previous response because you said I couldn't make references to Cowbells.

Also I don't think that Egix make this post if he is a Wizard partner when Wiz is close to being flipped. He would throw at least a bit of shade here I imagine.

Then Egix/Wiz probably isn't a team

and I've some doubts of Shoshin/Wiz as a team with Shoshin saying "I'll lynch you if Wiz flips town, ok Radiant?". It seemed to me like Shoshin is posturing for a day 2, but maybe it is just to distance herself of Wiz. Dunno.

[Buki]

please don't cop buki btw. we're just lynching him and you'll have to claim to defend him if he flips town. use the cop on someone relevant.

Noted.

Also, this post doesn't make sense but Eyes seem a specialist in not making sense anyway

First you said that RC was confirmed scum because he slipped, afterwards changing to Wizard because he was "lining up lynches" (and how can it be more scummy than a scum slip anyway?), and now you're even listening to what RC (confirmed scum from your pov), has to say.

If you're town I don't really know what to say to you. It's like, you forget what you were supposed to believe. Hopefully you are simply scum and we can all go home later.

[Buki]

Then it can be Wiz/Shoshin/Eyes I guess.

I suppose I'll go for a

Shoshin > Wiz

lynching order. If Shoshin flips scum, Wiz has good enough equity, and if Shoshin flips town, we might as well go for Wiz.

VOTE: Shoshin

Back to confirmed scum, and not just "probably scum" imo.

[Buki]

@Egix The only wagons going through today are Wiz and Shoshin, we don't even have much time

if you think Wiz might be town, hop in Shoshin.

[Egix96]

@Egix The only wagons going through today are Wiz and Shoshin, we don't even have much time

if you think Wiz might be town, hop in Shoshin.

I'm stll in the process of reading up but okay.

VOTE: Shoshin

[Buki]

This is the actual VC that matters.

TheWizard (4) - Radiant, Dr.Worm, Eyes, Shoshin
Shoshin (4) - CultOfAthena, Baezu, Buki, Egix

Not Voting/Voting in a wagon not going through (4) - Creature, Dr Worm, Pretentious, Emperor flippyNips

[Buki]

I too got the urge to want to vote Shoshin, so I understand the fast votes there. I’ll stay off the wagon to not add too many votes there, because I feel Shoshin could be town and RC and Shoshin just aren’t linking up right now. Either that or Shoshin’s just scum.

Yeah it's been time enough now to come to the conclusion that Shoshin must be scum.

and Added with this:

TheWiz and Baezu both come across as townie for me

You should probably hop in Shoshin's wagon.