Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[northsidegal]

lazyreads, egix/emperor/dr worm town

[RadiantCowbells]

Agree with all but egix

Add creature

[RadiantCowbells]

Maybe not on Creature actually

[Buki]

The games from Shoshin where she is town, I see her getting reads pretty fast and asking people for question, and being interested in sorting.

Here I think Shoshin only had the Beazu read until I and RC began arguing, and just as she kept saying "RC, I need your help" and "RC, I'm town", she banded together with RC not really being much critical of the whole thing.

I can't see this as town!Shoshin. In my wildest imagination she is a PR, but really, only a single read until the end of the day?

That's too much.

[northsidegal]

idk i guess ill look at forest fire again, feels more engaged here though

yeah i guess creature also maybe, i was just going from the people i'm seeing (on page 15 right now). his early posts were weird though, i actually thought he was deliberately making random scummy posts.

buki also probably town

[northsidegal]

i mean yeah i also think shoshin is probably scum here

just can't really comment on "hiding behind other people" or whatever

[RadiantCowbells]

I think -not playing as badly as he did in Forest fire- is not the same as being town but okay I'm not especially attached to that read

[RadiantCowbells]

If Shoshin is town and Wizard is scum we're lynching Buki regardless of your read on him jsyk

[northsidegal]

I AM A VERY AGGRESSIVE WORM

NO.. you are CONFRUSING ME with KRAINE TAPAS!!

it's kain tepes' birthday today, actually!

[Buki]

I AM A VERY AGGRESSIVE WORM

NO.. you are CONFRUSING ME with KRAINE TAPAS!!

it's kain tepes' birthday today, actually!

I actually noticed this

[Buki]

If Shoshin is town and Wizard is scum we're lynching Buki regardless of your read on him jsyk

and if the two are scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

Still your fault for refusing to vote Wizard

[Buki]

Still your fault for refusing to vote Wizard

yeah no

[northsidegal]

zzzzzz ego fights

[northsidegal]

baezu's iso is pretty scummy

[RadiantCowbells]

Looking for your opinion on wizard

[Buki]

baezu's iso is pretty scummy

I can sheep you on that after his most recent post

I think his initial ones are good

his last ones are terrible.

[RadiantCowbells]

So you'll sheep NSG on some random Baezu scumread she expressed once but you'll fight me to the death to not vote Wizard?

[Buki]

Ok, then the first thing is, she actually had already read posts beyond around #132, but ok, let's suppose she wants to re:read the whole game:

VOTE: Pretentious

Not really caring if his proposal makes sense, it just feels not genuine/staged. On one hand he thought about it after he got his role PM and suggests it here later, on the other hand he realizes just 1-2 minutes later after posting his fault with the Macho Cop mechanic. I don't buy that. Also I just hate WIFOM right at the beginning.

This seems scummy to me

^ She hadn't said anything about my slot until now, where my slot credibility is being questioned

I feel very uncomfortable with how close I am to L-1.

<3
UNVOTE:

She had already read this post before, and hadn't unvoted Shoshin or said anything about it

So RC is basically confirmed scum at this point.

He's far too good to try to lynch someone that he's not scumreading, and if he were scumreading Eyes he wouldn't get mad. Plus the way he got pissed off is scum indicative (he's fed up with people focusing on him and getting him lynched as scum, extra attention wouldn't be negative for him as a townie).

If somehow RC is town, then 1. he's bad and 2. my scumread reverts to Eyes. But that's unlikely.

My other scumreads are Creature and Egix. Game solved.

Wut

"it's so obvious scum lol, I'm fine with lynching"

RC wtf is going on this game? Scum is just rising to the surface so easily...

"I'm fine with lynching whoever is getting wagoned boys"

We doing Sufi?

I dunno what she means here

[RadiantCowbells]

Sufi means the wizard

[Buki]

So you'll sheep NSG on some random Baezu scumread she expressed once but you'll fight me to the death to not vote Wizard?

No, I began to question Baezu even before NSG showed up

As soon as Baezu made her new posts my scum alarm turned red

But I'm not sure I would give up in Shoshin lynch today. Maybe tomorrow. Dunno.

[Buki]

If Shoshin is town Baezu is probably scum

I don't know about that if Shoshin is scum.

[northsidegal]

yeah, i'm caught up. fine with my vote i think

i think both shoshin and wizard have a decent shot at being scum. if shoshin is pulling some gambit by playing this way deliberately then i'll readily admit that don't understand it, and i would question its efficiency so far. i think shoshin is a pretty efficient player in general so it seems somewhat unlikely to me. i have to recognize that shoshin is far more willing to use "unconventional" strategies as town than most people, but even still i would remain skeptical that her play this game is one of those.

wizard's random 100% scumread on rc is super random and feels planned. i know that i made this same misread in my very last game but it's still really weird to me (and honestly i still think that person in that game was lying, despite being town).

that being said, it does add an element of credibility to wizard's claim that he could point out that the macho doctor role pm doesn't actually contain anything regarding being macho. certainly not impossible for an astute scum player, though.

is there a reason to lynch wizard today now that via his claim his slot is somewhat self-resolving?

[northsidegal]

If Shoshin is town Baezu is probably scum

I don't know about that if Shoshin is scum.

this sounds like "if it is saturday then 1+1=2" to me. i can't see the relationship although i can agree that i think the conclusion is correct

[Buki]

is there a reason to lynch wizard today now that via his claim his slot is somewhat self-resolving?

No but if I try to explain that Wiz is dead man walking with that claim until LyLo if he is lying, It would make my situation even worse...