Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[northsidegal]

on what?

buki's thing sounds good

[Buki]

Like, not only that

if scum ends up killing the doctors when shooting

the scum that already claimed doctor to avoid the lynch is basically guilted. And not only that, doctors stay out of anyone that claims doctor, so the chance of protecting cop is even higher.

But...the unique exception might be we need to lynch Shoshin/someone today don't matter what they claim.

We don't have lot of time here, and the playerlist isn't active at all...

[Buki]

Then like:

They either kill:

the PRs and get guilted

the conf town of that day

gets the kill docced and town gets to have one more conf town (Mechanical solve gets closer)

[Buki]

Yeah they can't afford to let doctors alive

but only lynch Wiz in the last moment anyway, they might try WIFOM doc claims.

[Buki]

Maybe we should even make a system of directing protects better but in day 2 we can talk/think about that

[northsidegal]

i'm not sure there's a better system than saying "wiz, protect this player, any other doctors protect that player"

[Buki]

i'm not sure there's a better system than saying "wiz, protect this player, any other doctors protect that player"

I was thinking about using the playerlist to avoid doctors protecting the same person if Wiz happens to not be a doctor

but not really good ideas of yet

I'll think through the night and see if I come up with anything day 2 if I'm still alive

[RadiantCowbells]

There is

Wiz protect (cop target)

Other doctors roll 1dx in x townblock

[Buki]

By using directions in the playerlist, only the doctor themselves would know who they would protect, and since everyone has a different position, it might always result in two different protects each night

but like

I've not fully got a good idea yet

later

Now we need to choose who to lynch I guess

[northsidegal]

i think it's desirable for doctors to protect the same player if wiz isn't the doctor because, if we believe that the other doctor follows through with the agreed upon target, it essentially counterclaims wiz without any of the doctors actually having to reveal their identities

[Buki]

And we afterwards even get to choose, if we don't mechanical mostly solve, who were the scummiest people put in the "cop block" that didn't claim "cop me!" in the end.

Also Cop, don't try to be smart and cop the person that didn't claim. It could reallllyyyyyyyyy fuck things up.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think keeping valuable players alive is better than sacrificing them for a guilty on someone we should have lynched anyway

[RadiantCowbells]

We're not doing this claim thing.
We're just leashing the cop and doccing it

[Buki]

We're not doing this claim thing.
We're just leashing the cop and doccing it

what do you mean by leashing cop?

[RadiantCowbells]

We agree that wizard + cop target a player

Silence is presumed inno

[Buki]

We agree that wizard + cop target a player

Silence is presumed inno

Well

I'm not really against this yeah

[Buki]

I wanted something to try to mechanically solve the game but I'm fine with the simple way

[Buki]

In that case, if someone ran up to L-1 claims doctor, do we let him alive and coordinate so that the most town read players get protected and scum is forced to either be guilted or to nightkill scummier players or...?

[RadiantCowbells]

If we run up another doctor claim we speedlynched wizard

[Baezu]

How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?

[Buki]

If we run up another doctor claim we speedlynched wizard

come on RC

I'm fine with taking a sub-optimal but simpler way

but that's too much sub-optimal I think.

[Buki]

How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?

Without a playerlist scheme, if Wiz isn't a doctor we can't 100% prevent it. But it's improbably tonight, it's still early game.

[RadiantCowbells]

How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?

We have them roll 1dx

Most possible equity of saves and doesn't give scum a clear target

[Baezu]

I’m pretty sure one of wiz/pretentious isn’t a doc, maybe neither of them are

[Baezu]

How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?

We have them roll 1dx

Most possible equity of saves and doesn't give scum a clear target

Give me your town list, please