Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[Buki]

I wanted to try to solve the game mostly mechanically though

it would be funny as hell to see what scum would do

would they try to take the risk of hitting a cop with 2 protects?

would they just kill the doctors?

would they kill the conf town of everyday?

There's even smart plays in this that of course I'm not going to talk about (not really a way to counter it though), but it really would be fun.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC creature CoA until further notice

[mcqueen]

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[Buki]

I'm signing up to play this setup again probably

and next time since d1 I'm pushing that scheme next game

just hope I don't roll scum

[Buki]

Actually...

I might or not have fallen in love with game mechanics...

Anyway, now that we aren't lynching Wiz RC, who are you up to lynch? Shoshin?

[Buki]

let's use the "heal" tag to select the cop check/Wiz doc?

I can do the cop check VCs

[RadiantCowbells]

No heal tags

I don't get my wizard Lynch I decide the cop

[northsidegal]

why?

[Buki]

No heal tags

I don't get my wizard Lynch I decide the cop

seriously RC...?

I'm fine with it though, don't want to argue over anymore, and Egix is kind of a wild card right now.

Then the RC proposition is:

1. Cop checks Egix
2. If Egix is the cop, Egix checks Baezu
3. Wizard protects Egix

Does everyone agree? Please say so and fast. If not, make your own proposition and why (let's try to not be picky today, we only have 4 days).

[Buki]

Anyway, We need to also decide who the other doctor(s) should heal.

I vote NSG. It's a good enough day 1 town read of mine and she keep town cohesion.

If NSG hadn't been here we would have kept on with that shitshow.

[RadiantCowbells]

Doctors should random between universal townreads

[RadiantCowbells]

why?

Because I think egix is scum and you don't and I think we largely agree on everyone else.

[Buki]

Then if:

NSG dies and Wizard is confirmed scum

Egix dies and Wizard is confirmed scum

No guilty in day 2 and Egix is town. (note, even if he is cop, he is still town, and if he died and flipped cop, we would know also that Baezu is conf town).

[Buki]

Doctors should random between universal townreads

I dunno

NSG proposed this, and it's a way to 100% make sure that the town read doesn't die without scum getting guilted.

If we let them choose between universal town reads, scum can always claim "but I didn't town read X, but did town read Y" and etc

I think NSG idea is better in that aspect. If she dies, Wizard is scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't want to let wizard trade for nsg

[northsidegal]

i would be fine with that.

what if we make it dependent on the flip? if shoshin flips scum then it's 100% on one person, and if she flips town then it's randomized?

[Buki]

I don't want to let wizard trade for nsg

Look, try to think about this:

Since we don't know if Wizard is doc or not, the other(s) doctor(s) are thinking "Do I heal X or not? What if the other doctor ends up healing X as well?"

And it might happen very often that:

1. None of them heal, let's say, NSG, because they think the other one will
2. Both of them heal, thinking that the other one won't

and...NSG dies without we gaining any info any way. There's no way to really 100% protect NSG anyway RC, we're just making a system that lets us gain info if we lose her.

[Buki]

I have given up in my idea

and have given up in choosing the cop checks

but I can't given up in, all doctors other than Wiz, healing NSG tonight.

If we don't do that, even if NSG dies, we gain nothing.

[Buki]

i would be fine with that.

what if we make it dependent on the flip? if shoshin flips scum then it's 100% on one person, and if she flips town then it's randomized?

I don't want to let wizard trade for nsg

Look, try to think about this:

Since we don't know if Wizard is doc or not, the other(s) doctor(s) are thinking "Do I heal X or not? What if the other doctor ends up healing X as well?"

And it might happen very often that:

1. None of them heal, let's say, NSG, because they think the other one will
2. Both of them heal, thinking that the other one won't

and...NSG dies without we gaining any info any way. There's no way to really 100% protect NSG anyway RC, we're just making a system that lets us gain info if we lose her.

We can make it depending on the flip, but it needs to be

100% if Shoshin town
and a 100% option if Shoshin is scum.

[Buki]

Randomized docs depend too much on luck and make us gain no info.

[RadiantCowbells]

"info"

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok whatever if we'll be down to one scum all non wizard docs on NSG

If Shoshins town rng in me nsg creature

Wizard docs egix cop on Egix if it's inno just say nothing and that's your presumed result egix if you are cop target Baezu say nothing if inno

[RadiantCowbells]

Shoshin claim please

[Shoshin]

I'm here & reading up.

For the record, I'm not posting much because I'm in a lot of games & have limited time to spread between them. I'm also sort of lazy this game because I have the backup of RC & NSG, so I feel less urgency about sorting alignments.

Buki's wrong that this doesn't square with my town meta. I'm this inactive at certain points in most of my games, including games that RC & NSG are (or should be) familiar with.

[Shoshin]

How many votes do I have on me?