Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:50 pm

5 and I haven't voted.

Shoshin · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:50 pm

NSG, why are you voting me? You know from experience that I'm not always active or engaged in games.

Shoshin · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:50 pm

How many votes to lynch? Am I at L-1?

TheWizard · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:51 pm

Buki's original idea (having someone ask for a cop check) is great. It'll allow us to confirm townies who would otherwise be mislynched.

Having the town pick a cop check is more susceptible to scum manipulation (scum would try to talk the town into having the cop check a townie that was unlikely to be mislynched anyway). And in fact that's exactly what RC is doing.

We need a townie who is being scumread to say "cop me". The cop will check that person and I will heal them.

TheWizard · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:51 pm

Shoshin has 4 votes. Baezu unvoted.

Buki · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:52 pm

Whatever...let's make it randomized...

If anyone is still confused about anything:

1. Cop targets Egix tonight, if Egix is the cop then target Baezu
2. Wizard protects Egix tonight

Doctors other than Wizard:
1. If Shoshin flips scum, protect NSG
2. If Shoshin flips town, choose one in RC/NSG/Creature
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If you're the cop and get a guilty result in Egix, claim cop and your guilty.
If you're the cop and get a innocent result in Egix, don't say anything, don't claim.

Shoshin · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:52 pm

Have the cop check me if you're this worried I'm scum.

I'm worth keeping alive & I'm town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:52 pm

In post 803, TheWizard wrote:We need a townie who is being scumread to say "cop me". The cop will check that person and I will heal them.

This is scum trying to prevent a buddy from going down by making sure that it targets a townie.

Buki · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:52 pm

In post 803, TheWizard wrote:Buki's original idea (having someone ask for a cop check) is great. It'll allow us to confirm townies who would otherwise be mislynched.

Having the town pick a cop check is more susceptible to scum manipulation (scum would try to talk the town into having the cop check a townie that was unlikely to be mislynched anyway). And in fact that's exactly what RC is doing.

We need a townie who is being scumread to say "cop me". The cop will check that person and I will heal them.

Please.

Let's just go along with NSG/RC plan.

I can't argue over this game anymore, I'm tired.

TheWizard · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:53 pm

If Baezu is town, he should ask for a cop check.

TheWizard · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:54 pm

In post 808, Buki wrote:
In post 803, TheWizard wrote:Buki's original idea (having someone ask for a cop check) is great. It'll allow us to confirm townies who would otherwise be mislynched.

Having the town pick a cop check is more susceptible to scum manipulation (scum would try to talk the town into having the cop check a townie that was unlikely to be mislynched anyway). And in fact that's exactly what RC is doing.

We need a townie who is being scumread to say "cop me". The cop will check that person and I will heal them.
Please.

Let's just go along with NSG/RC plan.

I can't argue over this game anymore, I'm tired.

Being tired is not a valid reason for letting scum dictate plans.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:54 pm

"let's make sure that scum can choose to never be investigated, that will sure prevent scum manipulation!"

Shoshin · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:55 pm

Wizard, you're a doctor?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:55 pm

NSG won't let me lynch Wizard and my Egix scumread is unpopular, so.

northsidegal · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:55 pm

In post 801, Shoshin wrote:NSG, why are you voting me? You know from experience that I'm not always active or engaged in games.

i'm not voting you for your activity or engagement

i'm voting you because you feel off this game. you feel like a caricature of yourself as town.

like, the "more votes on creature!" is a classic shoshin line but in this case it didn't really feel warranted.

i think all of these posts are weird:

Spoiler:

i also don't follow your buki scumread or really believe that you yourself believe it. i get that this is kind of a 1v1 thing that i'm saying right now when it comes to who's right and who isn't, but i believe in your abilities as town to a great degree. seeing you scumread buki doesn't place any confidence in me that you're town.

Shoshin · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:56 pm

Okay, NSG. Please unvote while I have a chance to address your concerns.

Buki · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:56 pm

In post 807, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 803, TheWizard wrote:We need a townie who is being scumread to say "cop me". The cop will check that person and I will heal them.
This is scum trying to prevent a buddy from going down by making sure that it targets a townie.

No to be honest my idea is really more optimal in the long-run.

A guilty is less valuable in the long-run than slowly confirming lynchbait townies.

And also, without a guilty the cop can keep doing its work silently. While with a guilty he needs to claim.

But anyway.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, LET'S FOLLOW WITH THE ALREADY AGREED PLAN.

I really beg of you. I'm tired of this game.

TheWizard · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:57 pm

I'll go along with RC's plan if no one asks for a cop check, since it doesn't actively harm the town (it just passively hurts the town by wasting a cop check). But it would really be good if a townie being scumread more than Egix went ahead and asked for a check.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:57 pm

In post 816, Buki wrote:A guilty is less valuable in the long-run than slowly confirming lynchbait townies.

And also, without a guilty the cop can keep doing its work silently. While with a guilty he needs to claim.

But anyway.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, LET'S FOLLOW WITH THE ALREADY AGREED PLAN.

You and NSG think Egix is town and about to be innoed though, no?

TheWizard · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:58 pm

We don't even need to argue. If someone would ask for a check, I could heal them and the cop could check them. RC could just be ignored.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:58 pm

Itt wizard tries to prevent egix from getting checked

Buki · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:59 pm

Cop/Doctors

Please just go along with the plan in #805. I know it's selfish, but everyone here is a bit exhaust of this day.

Let's just get a flip and some info. Next day we discuss checks and etc better

northsidegal · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:59 pm

In post 815, Shoshin wrote:Okay, NSG. Please unvote while I have a chance to address your concerns.

you're not at any concern of being quickhammered as far as i'm aware so i'm not going to do that, sorry

TheWizard · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:02 pm

Everyone notice how RC earlier claimed he was sure to be copped. But has now talked himself out of getting copped.

Almost as if I was right about a cop not being able to stop him.

Buki · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:04 pm

Sooner or later he might (or not) get copped Wiz. Relax, until LyLo we see what we do about that