Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[TheWizard]

Regarding the doctors, the optimal play in fact is to let doctors choose heals for themselves. However, I understand why having heals dictated is optimal from the general perspective of the town, since the town in general doesn't know that I'm telling the truth. So I am onboard with the #805 plan for the other doctor.

[Buki]

A guilty is less valuable in the long-run than slowly confirming lynchbait townies.

And also, without a guilty the cop can keep doing its work silently. While with a guilty he needs to claim.

But anyway.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, LET'S FOLLOW WITH THE ALREADY AGREED PLAN.

You and NSG think Egix is town and about to be innoed though, no?

hm? When I said Egix is town?

I think Egix/Wiz might not be a team after Egix soft defending Wiz, but that's all

[Shoshin]

i'm voting you because you feel off this game. you feel like a caricature of yourself as town.

I understand why you're saying this. The truth is I was caricaturing myself a little bit earlier in the game (e.g. the self-vote comment) for the giggles.

like, the "more votes on creature!" is a classic shoshin line but in this case it didn't really feel warranted.

I use this line to build wagons at the start of games & that's what I was doing with Creature. What makes you feel it wasn't warranted?

i think all of these posts are weird:

Spoiler:

Hey RC, if you assume I'm town, who are the scum?

Hey RC, if you assume I'm town, who are the scum?

I need your help please.

CoA always feels so absent in my games. Is she scum, RC?

I don't like that you're calling these posts "weird," your analysis usually dives a bit deeper than that. You might disagree with this but I think calling stuff "weird and therefore scummy" is a minor scum tell.

I don't see the problem with the posts. In 272 & 282, I was feeling overwhelmed by my games & was hoping I could sheep RC's scumreads without having to give this game more time/effort, and I asked RC to assume I was town to increase the accuracy of his scumreads for my sake. What's "weird" about this?

What's the problem with 341?

i also don't follow your buki scumread or really believe that you yourself believe it. i get that this is kind of a 1v1 thing that i'm saying right now when it comes to who's right and who isn't, but i believe in your abilities as town to a great degree. seeing you scumread buki doesn't place any confidence in me that you're town.

It's not a 1v1, I don't do 1v1s unless it's a forced 1v1 at LYLO.

I'm scumreading Buki because he's making up crap about my meta to get me lynched without taking the time to check himself. It's something I've done as scum (I made up meta about Saudade in BoP mafia to get him mislynched) so I'm sensitive to it. Is this a bad reason to scumread someone?

[northsidegal]

i'm not confident on egix being town, it was literally the laziest possible read

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean

I'd have been copped if we hypothetically lynched you and you hypothetically flipped doctor. Maybe you should selfvote and help me lynch you so that I can get copped

[TheWizard]

2. If Shoshin flips town, choose one in RC/NSG/Creature

Shoshin won't flip town, but if he does the other doctor has no reason to stay inside this pool, if his own judgment takes him elsewhere. Unlike having a particular person to target, a pool doesn't mechanically ensure anyone's survival (or scum-confirm me in the event of anyone's death).

[Shoshin]

Have the cop check me please.

RC's alignment will sort itself based on who he pushes to lynch.

[Buki]

Have the cop check me please.

RC's alignment will sort itself based on who he pushes to lynch.

bad posting

[TheWizard]

Baezu was been widely scumread. If he's town he should ask for the cop check.

[Shoshin]

i'm not confident on egix being town, it was literally the laziest possible read

You should understand better than anyone how I'm playing this game given your tendency to be lazy sometimes, no?

[RadiantCowbells]

Baezu was been widely scumread. If he's town he should ask for the cop check.

Wizard continues to try to change the cop target

[Buki]

Shoshin #827 is a decent post

but agaiin, she has been posting so many "nothings" in this game that I feel like I might just be happy that she began to actually play the game

[Shoshin]

RC, are you scumreading me at this time?

[northsidegal]

rc just stop, what are you trying to accomplish

[Buki]

rc just stop, what are you trying to accomplish

do you think he has an objetice in mind...?

anyway, good posting

[TheWizard]

do you think he has an objetice in mind...?

RC's objective is for the mafia to obtain parity with the town.

[Shoshin]

RC, have you kept up with my JM games?

[Buki]

do you think he has an objetice in mind...?

RC's objective is for the mafia to obtain parity with the town.

I'm cracking up right now

Seriously, I enjoy your posts Wizard.

[RadiantCowbells]

rc just stop, what are you trying to accomplish

If we're not lynching outed scum then I'm certainly not going to let them dictate town strategy

[Buki]

I want to do a bad post

but later people may say I gamethrow...

but I still want to do it...

[northsidegal]

do you think he has an objetice in mind...?

RC's objective is for the mafia to obtain parity with the town.

you stop too

the confidence level you display in nearly all of your posts makes me not want to talk to you at all. i think it would do you well to remember that all of us have been wrong before and all of us can be wrong right now. trying to pretend that that isn't true is to deny reality. you don't look any better by acting this way if you're right, but you

certainly

look a lot worse if you're wrong.

please try to engage things on a higher level than just "RC is scums"

[Buki]

Not the bad post I want to make but:

NSG, how sure you are that I'm town?

[northsidegal]

fairly sure, i guess.

[northsidegal]

haven't put all that much effort into it but don't feel that i'm likely to be wrong

[Shoshin]

Can you explain the Buki read, NSG?