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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 1523, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1519, Eragon wrote:
In post 1498, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1497, rosterfoster wrote:Nom would you mind telling me who you think the scum team is? I think we all agree that Ank is obv town so you should tell first.
I used to think Ank was obvtown before your interaction, and that the scumteam was Eragon and Locke. Now I'm unsure what to think. The wording on her interaction with you is leaving me with a terrible feeling.
Ank is still obv town

Why is roster Town?
First statement is debatable.

Second, because he's been way more involved than you two in game solving. In contrast, you two have let things slide quite a bit, especially Locke making fairly large accusations against a few people, almost never voting however. That strikes me as a lack of involvement, and thus, scummy.
yea Ive been inactive
Ive been busy with life

Also, I'm scumreading Locke
So I don't know where your going with that
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 1522, Eragon wrote:
In post 1518, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1513, Eragon wrote: Any sane scum, knowing penguin was Town, would kill him because he's literally a protective and a roleblocker. Scum kills that 99 times out of 100.

Then they would try to distance from the kill.
That's a rather generalizing statement, and I believe that to be HIGHLY debatable, but this is entirely wifom, so yeah.
Which part of it
There's room to argue that some other kills than penguin were viable here for scums. But this is pure speculation and this is really going to lead us nowhere.

In any case, I do believe that penguin's death had more reason to it than him being a jailkeeper.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:34 am

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In post 1524, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 1515, Eragon wrote:That's false.

I defended NM over you/Locke

I said I still thought NM has the most chance of flipping town out of you three

I was defending NM slightly from Penguin's push
You conveniently disappeared while me/ank switched from Locke to NM and then started defending him in twilight, no? IF not, please point out where you did this.
"Conveniently disappeared"

More shade

I'll go read over the interactions
But voting someone then defending them is pog
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:37 am

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Yeah you're being shaded because I scumread you.

What's POG?

Me and Ank were resistant to NM at first but then I thought he had to be scum if you/Locke couldn't be a team. You and Locke both went away while that conclusion was reached.
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:40 am

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In post 1528, rosterfoster wrote:Yeah you're being shaded because I scumread you.

What's POG?

Me and Ank were resistant to NM at first but then I thought he had to be scum if you/Locke couldn't be a team. You and Locke both went away while that conclusion was reached.
Shade /=/ scumread lul


Pog is pog

I was resistant to NM as well. Because he had the lowest chance of flipping scum in my PoE.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:42 am

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The more logical side of my brain really thinks it's as simple as Locke and Eragon.

But like, there's the conspiracy one that involves Ank being scum, and then we end up with a maze of possibilities, and that's a headache right there.
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:43 am

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In post 1530, nomnomnom wrote:The more logical side of my brain really thinks it's as simple as Locke and Eragon.

But like, there's the conspiracy one that involves Ank being scum, and then we end up with a maze of possibilities, and that's a headache right there.
Ank is still obvious Town from GW's push, if not her play alone

if ank is somehow scum, this games already over
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:43 am

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Eragon I understand that, and it's not just you but also Locke too.

I shade my scumreads?
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:46 am

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In post 1532, rosterfoster wrote:Eragon I understand that, and it's not just you but also Locke too.

I shade my scumreads?

Shading isn't how you scumread

Shading is discrediting, creating false narratives, and skirting around the edges.

Saying

"My wasn't it convenient that eragon was nowhere during EoD"

Instead of

"I think Eragon is scum because he wasn't active during EoD"
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:47 am

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Yeah we have a different definition of shading.
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:48 am

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And if you "understand that"

Why is it towny for you and ank to be resistant to Nm Then switch

But not for me to be resistant to NM
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:48 am

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But you weren't resistant to him. Please show me where you were (BEFORE the hammer).
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:50 am

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In post 1339, Eragon wrote:
In post 357, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Grand Wazoo
In post 395, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Grand Wazoo
In post 611, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Grand Wazoo

no other votes in between
In post 1337, Eragon wrote:
In post 1336, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1332, Eragon wrote:I definitely see reasons that N_M could be town, as i've expressed earlier, although he has been getting grating recently.
You don't see NM's voting around the GW wagon to seem bad for him?
i mean, they hammer tested GW

said thjeir vote was serious

and then hammer tested again

and then voted Elsa as what i took for a joke?

voting off the wagon isnt a great look

but i dont think it makes them confirmed scum
In post 1332, Eragon wrote:NGL Locke/NM are both just... PoE because i don't townread them as much as anyone else.

I definitely see reasons that N_M could be town, as i've expressed earlier, although he has been getting grating recently.

and lcoke is just... kinda there for me?

their interactions with Roster, or rather roster -> are kinda weird though, so i definitely think thats a likely team
In post 1335, Eragon wrote:
In post 360, GrandWazoo wrote:
In post 355, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 354, Locke113 wrote:
In post 346, GrandWazoo wrote:By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.
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Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels
I wouldn't say it's conspiracy theory levels, I'd say it's more unnecessary invasive questioning.
Like, I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want to start an alt or in general start a new account and remain secret, that are not related to the game at all. Clearly she does not want to be recognized, so why press the issue for this long?

Like honestly I can't say if he's being invasive because he MUST know who Alacrity are so he will press the issue ad infinitum, or if there's something more to it.
You can't enter the game proudly declaring your alt, daring ppl to guess who it is, then complain because someone actually wants to know.
In post 432, GrandWazoo wrote:I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.

And no Urap I didn't think I was hammered. I may be a prick but I'm not an idiot lol
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In post 435, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 432, GrandWazoo wrote:I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.
What normal ability would you suggest that falls under?
No clue. Just weird to me. The alternative explanation is they're sowing confusion or DGAF.
one of these is also about the alt

and the other 2 are shade

this is another reason i think NM is +town
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:50 am

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Me saying NM is town over Locke/roster
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:51 am

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In post 1531, Eragon wrote:
In post 1530, nomnomnom wrote:The more logical side of my brain really thinks it's as simple as Locke and Eragon.

But like, there's the conspiracy one that involves Ank being scum, and then we end up with a maze of possibilities, and that's a headache right there.
Ank is still obvious Town from GW's push, if not her play alone

if ank is somehow scum, this games already over
This is such a garbage view of the game. Like, really?

It's not obvious to me, and it never has been. It's just that so much happened during the game that was at the forefront that I never took the time to sort her inherent weirdness and secrecy, and now it's as relevant as ever, because there's still this touch of secrecy to her intent, and on LYLO that's an alarm bell.

If you are willing to simplify a player to a single vote, then you are going to your doom. And if you are willing to lose because you are too lazy to reconsider someone's actions, I don't really know what to tell you.
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 1539, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1531, Eragon wrote:
In post 1530, nomnomnom wrote:The more logical side of my brain really thinks it's as simple as Locke and Eragon.

But like, there's the conspiracy one that involves Ank being scum, and then we end up with a maze of possibilities, and that's a headache right there.
Ank is still obvious Town from GW's push, if not her play alone

if ank is somehow scum, this games already over
This is such a garbage view of the game. Like, really?

It's not obvious to me, and it never has been. It's just that so much happened during the game that was at the forefront that I never took the time to sort her inherent weirdness and secrecy, and now it's as relevant as ever, because there's still this touch of secrecy to her intent, and on LYLO that's an alarm bell.

If you are willing to simplify a player to a single vote, then you are going to your doom. And if you are willing to lose because you are too lazy to reconsider someone's actions, I don't really know what to tell you.
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I'm willing to bet this game on ank being Town
I'm absolutely confident on this
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:53 am

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You're quoting those posts in reverse order (like actually how did you do that?).

Your first post is more NM as town, but then the next two (chronologically) are giving yourself a very big option to jump to NM and IMO are not resistant at all. That feels like a scum progression to me.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:55 am

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Eragon the alt stuff could happen if Ank is traitor actually. I hadn't considered that before.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:55 am

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Traitor knows scum but scum don't know traitor.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:55 am

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In post 1541, rosterfoster wrote:You're quoting those posts in reverse order (like actually how did you do that?).

Your first post is more NM as town, but then the next two (chronologically) are giving yourself a very big option to jump to NM and IMO are not resistant at all. That feels like a scum progression to me.
Because I'm on mobile and missed some first time

I'll try to rewrite it chronologically in actuality
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:56 am

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In post 1332, Eragon wrote:NGL Locke/NM are both just... PoE because i don't townread them as much as anyone else.

I definitely see reasons that N_M could be town, as i've expressed earlier, although he has been getting grating recently.

and lcoke is just... kinda there for me?

their interactions with Roster, or rather roster -> are kinda weird though, so i definitely think thats a likely team
In post 1335, Eragon wrote:
In post 360, GrandWazoo wrote:
In post 355, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 354, Locke113 wrote:
In post 346, GrandWazoo wrote:By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.
@Nom
Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels
I wouldn't say it's conspiracy theory levels, I'd say it's more unnecessary invasive questioning.
Like, I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want to start an alt or in general start a new account and remain secret, that are not related to the game at all. Clearly she does not want to be recognized, so why press the issue for this long?

Like honestly I can't say if he's being invasive because he MUST know who Alacrity are so he will press the issue ad infinitum, or if there's something more to it.
You can't enter the game proudly declaring your alt, daring ppl to guess who it is, then complain because someone actually wants to know.
In post 432, GrandWazoo wrote:I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.

And no Urap I didn't think I was hammered. I may be a prick but I'm not an idiot lol
In post 446, GrandWazoo wrote:
In post 435, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 432, GrandWazoo wrote:I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.
What normal ability would you suggest that falls under?
No clue. Just weird to me. The alternative explanation is they're sowing confusion or DGAF.
one of these is also about the alt

and the other 2 are shade

this is another reason i think NM is +town
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In post 1336, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1332, Eragon wrote:I definitely see reasons that N_M could be town, as i've expressed earlier, although he has been getting grating recently.
You don't see NM's voting around the GW wagon to seem bad for him?
i mean, they hammer tested GW

said thjeir vote was serious

and then hammer tested again

and then voted Elsa as what i took for a joke?

voting off the wagon isnt a great look

but i dont think it makes them confirmed scum
In post 1339, Eragon wrote:
In post 357, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Grand Wazoo
In post 395, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Grand Wazoo
In post 611, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Grand Wazoo

no other votes in between
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:56 am

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In post 1540, Eragon wrote:
In post 1539, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1531, Eragon wrote:
In post 1530, nomnomnom wrote:The more logical side of my brain really thinks it's as simple as Locke and Eragon.

But like, there's the conspiracy one that involves Ank being scum, and then we end up with a maze of possibilities, and that's a headache right there.
Ank is still obvious Town from GW's push, if not her play alone

if ank is somehow scum, this games already over
This is such a garbage view of the game. Like, really?

It's not obvious to me, and it never has been. It's just that so much happened during the game that was at the forefront that I never took the time to sort her inherent weirdness and secrecy, and now it's as relevant as ever, because there's still this touch of secrecy to her intent, and on LYLO that's an alarm bell.

If you are willing to simplify a player to a single vote, then you are going to your doom. And if you are willing to lose because you are too lazy to reconsider someone's actions, I don't really know what to tell you.
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I'm absolutely confident on this
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Those interactions with grandwazoo don't change
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:57 am

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Oh I though 1332 was last post. Even so you're not exactly ethusiastic about your defense of him, no? How is that being resistant, in your view?
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:58 am

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In post 1542, rosterfoster wrote:Eragon the alt stuff could happen if Ank is traitor actually. I hadn't considered that before.
Fuck my sanity

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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:58 am

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