Newbie 1924 - Game Over

[TTTT]

Yeah, he claimed he was RB'd. Doesn't that go in the trash if he's scum?

the claim he was blocked is trashed if he's scum
but the fact he used it in his claim means scum!Nav thinks being limited to column A can't incriminate him

[TTTT]

I need Clarity to show up and spill her guts

[MaryJoLisa]

Am I allowed to speculate about why MKM might have repped out of the game?

[TTTT]

if it's about out of game stuff I think it's frowned upon
with MKM knowing Clarity IRL... I've already been thinking about it

[TTTT]

some mods don't care
but some crack down on replace-out speculation
not sure how Micc treats it

[MaryJoLisa]

I'll play it safe and keep my thoughts to myself.

[MaryJoLisa]

Alright, here we go then. I'm the Jailkeeper.

Datisi do you understand exactly how that chart of roles works? I don't want to ask you to believe in something if you have any doubt in your mind in you confidence in the game setup.

Let's assume you understand. If that's the case and you know for sure you're the jailkeeper, then you know with absolute certainty that jailkeeper and cop aren't in the same game. In that case, your vote should be on Naveet and only Naveet.

I know with absolute certainty that I'm VT and that Naveet is lying with a guilty claim on me. My vote should be on Naveet and only Naveet.

We need three votes to lynch and two votes should only be on Naveet and not anyone else.

Little friendly tip: If you don't understand how that role chart works, ask @Mod for a clear explanation. That's basic setup information that I cannot imagine Micc would not be willing to further explain especially considering that an explanation is already provided in the OP. Get the straight story from the mod, then go place your vote where you think it belongs.

[TTTT]

@MJL
Datisi is voting Nav in spirit

Yeah, pretend I'm voting him rn

[TTTT]

99% sure it's just Nav/Clarity
and not some crazy Nav/MJLorDatisi gambit
but gonna let Clarity post

[MaryJoLisa]

@MJL
Datisi is voting Nav in spirit

Yeah, pretend I'm voting him rn

Okay, but TTTT, when I said I wasn't going to vote very soon, that was before Naveet dove head first into the role-claim game.

[TTTT]

after Clarity voted Nav at daystart Nav had zero concern he was gonna be quick lynched by scum

[TTTT]

yeah feel fee to drop a vote on him

[MaryJoLisa]

VOTE: thenavneet

[Micc]

Votecount 3.02

MaryJoLisa (1) -

thenavneet

thenavneet (1) -

MaryJoLisa

Not Voting (3) -

Datisi, TTTT, ClearlyClarity

With 5 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-04-24 17:45:00).

[ClearlyClarity]

Catching up (for reals)

[ClearlyClarity]

Both MJL's and Nav's posts feel like they're setting up for me as the lynch but nav is the only one I feel confident about

His posts D3 (increased frequency & change to a more confident tonality) have been giving me off vibes

CC has done nothing but zero in on me for the past few days. Probably because I'm an easy lynch to push activity wise. I'm pretty sure I see what MJL is setting up for with her posts so far today. It's a bold move for sure but yeah they're both pretty much lockScum for me at this point (is that a thing?)

How does pressuring you make me lockscum? Or make MJL lockscum for that matter?

Pressuring me doesn't inherently make you look scum. Pressuring JUST me though. That's dodgy.

LockScum from my POV btw. There is a very clear reason for my change in confidence and tonality.

G2H I'd lynch MJL today before you but given that I'm fairly certain you're both scum I won't be too picky about it.

I didn't """"just"""" pressure you, I pressured Voted and Salad from the very beginning along with you. You're also assuming I'm a confident enough player that scum!me would have a plan to set up your lynch since Day 1, but I can definitely see that being the case for you. You haven't exactly been subtle about the breadcrumbing of a guilty claim on me, and from your PoV I, too, am an easy player to lynch activity-wise.

The entirety of your behavior on D3 — setting me and MJL up while backing up your "lockscum" claim of me with flimsy evidence — feels terribly premeditated. Why would scum! me specifically choose to pressure you, out of a multitude of other, more feasible options?

[ClearlyClarity]

It's rather late here and I'm pretty tired, but I'll post a couple of my thoughts before I crash. Both of these posts make me very suspicious of CC - she never answered the first one, but she did post later in Day 2. Not reading or ignoring the question? Same for the vote, after TTTT posted not to vote hastly.

Like MJL pointed out, that was a newbie slip that I remedied immediately. I was also inactive sitewide during most of D2 and only had enough time to get my vote on my top scumread before the day ended

where did MJL point this out?

In her interaction with you.

And you, TTTT, still need to formally take back your threat to blacklist Clearly over a possibly-newbie error in judgement.

[ClearlyClarity]

Formally take it back.

Yes, top SR. I'd vote Clarity if the day was ending in 10 minutes.

What happened to being your top townread only two posts before in your ISO?

where does MJL ever say you are her top TR?

584, which was essentially her latest reads list before D3 came around. In fact, also in an interaction with you, you asked her who her top townread was, and it was a tie between you and me.

[ClearlyClarity]

@NAV
I'm not sure we can progress much more without you explicitly stating the guilty on Clarity that you've been hinting at
you should go ahead and out
if you are just faking for reactions out that too plz

Funny story.

My guilty isn't on Clarity.

Alright, now I'm confused.

[ClearlyClarity]

Man you really wanna ruin my theatrics don't you!

Yes I am Town Cop with a Guilty on MJL.

Let's dance!

...

[ClearlyClarity]

Couple things:
- There are at least two claimed PRs present and they aren't compatible
- We are assuming setup A1 or A3 if Nav's claim is true
- We are assuming A2, B2, or C2 if Datisi's claim is true
- Higher probability that the scum setup is RBer + Goon.

[ClearlyClarity]

Addendum to previous post: Column A isn't guaranteed, if I'm reading this right, but it's the highest possibility rn.

[ClearlyClarity]

- Nav is confirmed scum from two players' PoV: MJL's and Datisi's.
- MJL is confirmed scum from Nav's PoV.
- Datisi is also confirmed scum from Nav's PoV.

Datisi/MJL would be the confirmed scumteam to Nav. That means I can't be scum from his PoV.

Nav, does that affect your "lockscum" view of me in any way?

[ClearlyClarity]

Am I allowed to speculate about why MKM might have repped out of the game?

if it's about out of game stuff I think it's frowned upon
with MKM knowing Clarity IRL... I've already been thinking about it

FWIW, MKM subbed out of every game he was in. I know he's been dealing with IRL stuff.

[ClearlyClarity]

Actually, I feel like the game's solved now.

- Datisi's 95% town because of this.
- Based on the above, Nav is scum.
- Nav's falseclaim implies Column A, and Datisi's CC implies Row 2. That means there's a doc.
- One of me, TTTT, or MJL is doc. The other two would be VT and scum.

Yeah, I got it.